MVT Near the Airport
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December 14, 2020 at 3:54 pm #922087
Judd
ParticipantIf there was the possibility of one major trail improvement on the Mount Vernon Trail near the airport, what would you like to see? Below are items that are contained in various NPS reports.
1. Improve the junction of Mount Vernon Trail and Four Mile Run Trail. A traffic circle was proposed as a solution in the National Capital Paved Trails report and the Mount Vernon Trail Corridor Safety study.
2. Straightening, widening and repaving of the trail from Four Mile Run northward. The Trail Safety study identified the curves and pavement conditions at the south end of the airport has a contributor to a number of crashes.
3. Improved crossing of the ramp from the airport to the Parkway (it’s that one where trail users have a stop sign, but cars often yield, but sometimes they don’t)
4. Gravelly Point bypass trail. There’s a concept to create a trail on the west side of Gravelly Point to allow through traffic to avoid the large amount of plane watchers and picnickers.
5. Something else?December 14, 2020 at 4:13 pm #1107140SarahBee
Participant1st choice #2, 2nd choice #4.
December 14, 2020 at 4:24 pm #1107141rcannon100
ParticipantGondola!
December 14, 2020 at 5:02 pm #1107142EasyRider
Participant#2
December 14, 2020 at 7:25 pm #1107143December 14, 2020 at 8:35 pm #1107144Rootchopper
ParticipantUse shrubbery to provide a screen between the Parkway and the trail, from Gravelly to the first flyover bridge and again at either end of the 4MR bridge. Riding south, headlights blind riders. Also, they back light trail traffic making trail users very hard to see. I have had several close calls because of this. Also, I saw a pedestrian get nailed by a bike at the south end of the 4MR bridge.
There used to be shrubbery along the stretch immediately next to the auxiliary runway but it was removed a long time ago.
December 14, 2020 at 8:42 pm #1107145jrenaut
Participant6) Drop the speed limit on the Parkway to 25 and put speed cameras every 100 yards.
7) Make the trail wide enough so that two roadies in going in opposite directions can pass two CaBi tourists going in opposite directions and no one remembers it happened 5 minutes later
Repave the awful section just south of the 14th St Bridge
9) Put the entire trail under the domain of someone who understands trail users
10) Don’t invite the person who suggested a traffic circle to any more meetings
11) Yeah, 2 and 4 sound good to me tooDecember 14, 2020 at 9:22 pm #1107148dbb
Participant@jrenaut 203032 wrote:
6) Drop the speed limit on the Parkway to 25 and put speed cameras every 100 yards.
Drop the speed limit on the Parkway to 25 and put speed cameras every 100 yards randomly in the traffic lanes. FIFY
December 14, 2020 at 9:24 pm #1107149mstone
Participant@dbb 203035 wrote:
Drop the speed limit on the Parkway to 25 and put speed cameras every 100 yards randomly in the traffic lanes. FIFY
we prefer the term “bollard”
December 14, 2020 at 9:28 pm #1107150Judd
Participant@Rootchopper 203031 wrote:
Use shrubbery to provide a screen between the Parkway and the trail, from Gravelly to the first flyover bridge and again at either end of the 4MR bridge. Riding south, headlights blind riders. Also, they back light trail traffic making trail users very hard to see. I have had several close calls because of this. Also, I saw a pedestrian get nailed by a bike at the south end of the 4MR bridge.
There used to be shrubbery along the stretch immediately next to the auxiliary runway but it was removed a long time ago.
The headlight issue is definitely on my list and vegetation management is an activity the Friends are allowed to do. There is a spot where I consistently ride off the trail at night. Do you happen to have any pictures of the old shrubbery?
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December 14, 2020 at 9:47 pm #1107153SarahBee
Participant@Judd 203037 wrote:
The headlight issue is definitely on my list and vegetation management is an activity the Friends are allowed to do. There is a spot where I consistently ride off the trail at night. Do you happen to have any pictures of the old shrubbery?
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I thought this was just me. What a relief- I seriously thought I was having major night blindness issues.
December 14, 2020 at 9:48 pm #1107154Steve O
Participant@Rootchopper 203031 wrote:
Use shrubbery to provide a screen between the Parkway and the trail, from Gravelly to the first flyover bridge and again at either end of the 4MR bridge. Riding south, headlights blind riders. Also, they back light trail traffic making trail users very hard to see. I have had several close calls because of this. Also, I saw a pedestrian get nailed by a bike at the south end of the 4MR bridge.
There used to be shrubbery along the stretch immediately next to the auxiliary runway but it was removed a long time ago.
Yes, I remember that. Now, with the headlights blinding me, I have to ride that section with my eyes closed.
December 14, 2020 at 11:18 pm #1107157jrenaut
ParticipantSee what happens if one more person types or quotes “shrubbery”
December 14, 2020 at 11:42 pm #1107158Rootchopper
ParticipantI don’t. It wasn’t continuous but it was better than nothing.
I usually ride this section with one hand shielding my eyes.
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