Guys – don’t shout at women

[ShawnoftheDread]

@Judd 160881 wrote:

The world would be a much better place if we just followed the advice of Bill and Ted to, “Be Excellent to Each Other.”

Oh, like we need those two to mansplain proper behavior to us.

[TwoWheelsDC]

@Vicegrip 160889 wrote:

Who shouts based on gender? I ring a bell sometimes and say “On your left” sometimes and nothing sometimes such as little kids. (Wobbles I slow down to their speed and sneak around as saying anything will only make them look back and turn into you.) The gender of the person being passed has 0.0 to do with the method I chose. I don’t have a Larry the Lounge Lizard tone if “On your left” I do have a “Please reel in your little lap rat on the 20 foot string” voice.

Not really the type of behavior the article is getting at….

[MFC]

@Vicegrip 160889 wrote:

Why is gender a factor in saying something to someone else or not? In the context of riding bikes on streets and trails and regarding bike behavior if it is OK to say to a man why is not OK to same same to a woman? I am not talking bad stuff but warnings or the like. Sure “get off your bike” is not a Dirt way to say something but it is simply rude man or woman. A new rider can be discouraged be they man or woman.

A little sprinkle of rule 5 so rude people will less insult your day. Rude is rude.

In addition to more overt sexist behavior, some people may take a more condescending or superior attitude with women than they would with men. And that is an attitude that woman may have to fight against more than do men. But I agree there are plenty of jerks out there who think they are superior to everyone, regardless of gender.

[Steve O]

@Judd 160880 wrote:

Remember when I shouted “Hi Erin!” at you yesterday?

You are so freakin’ sexist. You never yell “Hi Steve O” at me.

[MattAune]

It is comforting to know that I am sexist if I offer to help and sexist if I don’t offer to help. Shrodinger’s Sexism?

[Judd]

@Steve O 160895 wrote:

You are so freakin’ sexist. You never yell “Hi Steve O” at me.

If it ever does sound like I’m saying hi to you, I want to you to know that I am really saying, “Fie Steve O, fie!”

[TwoWheelsDC]

@MattAune 160896 wrote:

It is comforting to know that I am sexist if I offer to help and sexist if I don’t offer to help. Shrodinger’s Sexism?

It’s not offering to help that’s the issue, it’s about how the offer is presented. Put another way, your offer of help shouldn’t imply that the person in need doesn’t know how to fix the problem. Even when I ask guys if they need help, I usually say “got everything you need” rather than “do you need help?”

[Crickey7]

I resolve to yell at everyone, or no one.

[MFC]

@Crickey7 160902 wrote:

I resolve to yell at everyone, or no one.

Maybe alternate days, and try to work in screaming goat sounds.

[SolarBikeCar]

The world is in gender balance. Every jerk comment on the trail is balanced by the gossip and snarky commentary on this forum.

[Vicegrip]

This is one of if not the best behaved forums I know of.

[sjclaeys]

Meanwhile, this happens and no one notices:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/woman-bicyclist-seriously-injured-in-capitol-hill-crash/2017/05/31/6c80e504-45b9-11e7-bcde-624ad94170ab_story.html?utm_term=.da96758bc98b

[Tania]

@sjclaeys 160916 wrote:

Meanwhile, this happens and no one notices:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/woman-bicyclist-seriously-injured-in-capitol-hill-crash/2017/05/31/6c80e504-45b9-11e7-bcde-624ad94170ab_story.html?utm_term=.da96758bc98b

It was noticed on the Women and Bicycles FB group.

[TwoWheelsDC]

@Tania 160919 wrote:

It was noticed on the Women and Bicycles FB group.

And Twitter. It’s a half-block from my house and an intersection I walk/ride through every day (including shortly after the crash), so I definitely noticed.

[Judd]

It’s kind of interesting that this thread has been dominated by discussion from the fellas. I read most of the comments to the WABA post on Twitter and Facebook and also the Greater Greater Washington post that was similar. This by far has been the most subdued of discussions. I’m wondering if more of the women forum members would be willing to share their thoughts and if the men folk would be willing to just listen and/or withhold responses that disagree with how someone feels or how they interpret an experience.

Out of curiosity, I took a look at who I am following on Strava. I follow 101 people, 37 of whom are women, so about 37% of my cycling friends are women, which is a good bit better than the 24% of cyclists who are women as WABA states. I’m not sure if this makes me totally enlightened or a total creeper for following a disproportionate share of women.

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