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    Default December 2015 ABAC Meeting

    Tonight 7pm 2100 Clarendon, 3rd Floor
    All are welcome

    Agenda:
    7:00pm Call to Order; Introductions; Approve minutes Gillian
    7:05pm Update of the Bicycle Element of the Master Transportation Plan Gillian
    7:10pm Ballston Plaza (Fairfax Drive between Stuart and Stafford Streets) Mark Schnaufer
    7:30pm Columbia Pike Revitalization Organization Takis Karantonis
    7:45pm Arlington Commuter Services new Chief Larry Filler
    7:55pm Custis Repair []
    8:10pm Four Mile Run Trail Closure []
    8:30pm Arlington County Staff Updates:
    A. Parks: Lights, paving Kevin
    B. Projects: Signs, counts, snow clearing* Daves
    C. BikeArlington Henry
    8:50pm Budget update Gillian
    8:55pm New Business Gillian
    9:00pm Adjournment Gillian

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    Good meeting. Thanks to all who came out.

    For those who weren't there, be prepared for large swaths of FMR east of Shirlington to be closed for large swaths of time.

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    Default Ballston Station Multimodal Public Meeting

    Ballston Multimodal.PDF

    Discussed last night.

    Public meeting at NRECA (4301 Wilson Blvd, Room CC1) at 6:30 pm Wed 16 Dec.

    Will discuss changes to bus parking at the Ballston Metro Station

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    Good meeting. Thanks to all who came out.

    For those who weren't there, be prepared for large swaths of FMR east of Shirlington to be closed for large swaths of time.
    Is there any additional information on this? (such as dates/locations and if there will be signed detours in effect?)

    Thanks for all of your efforts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    Good meeting. Thanks to all who came out.

    For those who weren't there, be prepared for large swaths of FMR east of Shirlington to be closed for large swaths of time.
    So what is Arlington County's plan to provide safe and practicable alternate routes for cyclists? Also, I thought that the ABAC meeting notes were usually posted. Is that no longer the practice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjclaeys View Post
    So what is Arlington County's plan to provide safe and practicable alternate routes for cyclists? Also, I thought that the ABAC meeting notes were usually posted. Is that no longer the practice?
    There are 3 (three!) projects that threaten to close different parts of the FMR Trail east of Shirlington.

    The most concerning is an environmental project to do some work in the stream. Large vehicles will use the trail, so cyclists and pedestrians will not. They are planning for trail closures for a year, starting next summer, but are hoping for a shorter time frame. They're detour plan is to route bikes over the stream along Rte 1, then on the "FMR Park Trail" that goes through a park on the ALX side, then up Mt Vernon Ave to get back on the trail. The County staff who presented the detour (technical term is they are in the process of creating the MOT ("Maintenance of Travel") plan) was woefully under prepared. He had not thought through how people were expected to travel on Mt Vernon Ave or on Rte 1, short of saying, basically, "there are sidewalks". He did not know the condition of the sidewalks. He did not know the condition of the ALX Trail. He had not looked at the safety of the ALX Trail (a concern at the meeting). He at not looked at alternatives, such as taking a lane on S Glebe for a 2 way protected cycletrack, or improving a sidewalk on S Glebe for such. He promised to do some homework and come back to the BAC in January.

    The other two are:
    * A redevelopment at the Berkeley, which is just west of the work area for the environmental project. I believe the plans involve repaving (so short term closure). The redevelopment plans do NOT include taking down the fence at the back of the parking lot. A relevant meeting is being held 12/21.

    * A VDOT project to improve the 395 bridges over FMR creek. They expect some night closures of the FMR Trail over a period of 6 months, starting next year. Detour involves the bridge. BAC asked the County to look at improving bike infra on Martha Custis before that starts.
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    Pic of detour for environmental project

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    detour plan is to route bikes over the stream along Rte 1, then on the "FMR Park Trail" that goes through a park on the ALX side, then up Mt Vernon Ave to get back on the trail.
    This is my commute, I actually intentionally bail to the Alexandria side at Mt Vernon since I'm headed to Commonwealth Ave and don't want to go past it to the Route 1 bridge. I expect it'll be mostly OK, except the Mt Vernon Ave sidewalk is narrow. Like TR bridge narrow. Dasgeh and I had better not try to pass eachother

    This is assuming Alexandria is done with THEIR stream project first, because that trail that is shown in the detour on the Alexandria side is closed right now (so I'm staying on the Arlington side and going across Route 1, whose sidewalk is plenty wide).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    * A redevelopment at the Berkeley, which is just west of the work area for the environmental project. I believe the plans involve repaving (so short term closure). The redevelopment plans do NOT include taking down the fence at the back of the parking lot. A relevant meeting is being held 12/21.
    Unless things have changed, this project should actually WIDEN the trail to 12'. If things have changed, they're going to get a piece of my mind and they should get a piece of the BAC's as well. Widening the trail to 12' there is one of the few bike projects that is actually in the MTP. We require development projects to bring adjacent sidewalks & street trees up to our current standards, they should do the same with the trail.

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    dasgeh, all three of those locations are east of Shirlington,

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