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    Quote Originally Posted by bobco85 View Post
    My main issue with the driver is that they acted like the crosswalk (and people like me about to enter it) was invisible.
    Windshield perspective: why should I stop so far back? Surely there won't be any cars coming down that sidewalk...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim Kelley View Post
    It's both. Not stopping at the stop bar first was bad behavior on the driver's party, but having to pull fully into the crosswalk in order to see oncoming traffic is bad design, either on the part of the engineers or on the landscapers.
    It's incredibly common to have to pull forward to see. I can't leave my neighborhood without going through one of several such intersections. It's so common, that eliminating that would require a massive rebuild of a significant fraction of our infrastructure. I don't know what it has to do with not stopping before the crosswalk. I can't tell from the video, but I'd guess that the driver never once looked to the right while going through the stop, because they were only looking for oncoming cars on the left. That's not a design problem, that's a driver problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstone View Post
    I can't leave my neighborhood without going through one of several such intersections. It's so common, that eliminating that would require a massive rebuild of a significant fraction of our infrastructure.
    Just because it's common doesn't mean that it's not bad design...and you don't have to continue to try to convince me otherwise. Have a great weekend!

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    Granted the driver behavior was also a problem.

    But wrt to infrastructure, you don't have to rebuild everything. Because there are lots and lots of quiet neighborhood streets where there are few pedestrians and even interested but concerned cyclists can easily take the lane. I guess it is particularly annoying at the Potomac Yard shopping center, because that is the designated bike route connecting the quite bikeable and urbanist Potomac Yards South with Crystal City, Four Mile Run Trail, and the MVT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthemark View Post
    But wrt to infrastructure, you don't have to rebuild everything. Because there are lots and lots of quiet neighborhood streets where there are few pedestrians and even interested but concerned cyclists can easily take the lane.
    Few pedestrians != no pedestrians. Drivers still kinda need to look when they drive over a crosswalk regardless of where the cyclists are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstone View Post
    Few pedestrians != no pedestrians. Drivers still kinda need to look when they drive over a crosswalk regardless of where the cyclists are.
    I was thinking more of the issue of blocking the crosswalk.

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