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    Default Freezing Saddles Important Information

    Update 10/8/17: Last year's info replaced with general game description


    ****PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD. **** This is a post to provide a single spot for information regarding Bike Arlington Freezing Saddles (BAFS). I will update this post as needed to keep information current. If you have a question, or think that something needs to be added or changed in this post, PM me please.


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    What is Freezing Saddles, (or BAFS “Bike Arlington Freezing Saddles”)?

    Freezing Saddles is a winter riding competition for bike riders in the general DC area, organized by random people who talk to each other on the Washington Area/ Bike Arlington Bike Forum. While we organize ourselves on the BikeArlington forum, and Bike Arlington has generously donated some sort of prizes in the past, we are not run by BikeArlington. As described by a forum member, BAFS organization

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve O View Post
    probably most closely resembles organizing a game of freeze tag on the grade-school playground.
    How it works, keeping in mind things can and do change year-to-year during the planning stage:

    Freezing Saddles runs from January 1 through the last full day of winter. We divided people into teams of 11 people in 2017 (this has varied slightly in different years). Each team is a mix of riders who typically ride enough to qualify as insane, people who ride regularly but like sane people, people who ride occasionally, and people who have never ridden through a winter before. An attempt is made to keep the mix roughly comparable for all the teams so they are approximately evenly matched and everyone has a fair shot at being on a winning team. In order to create teams, we ask that people fill out a registration form in the fall before each year’s game to create a list of players and your expected or typical mileage. A volunteer for the year then divvies everyone up into teams using combinations of predicted miles, random selection, and sometimes preferences for regional team groupings.

    Usually sometime around Halloween, planning threads pop up on the forum (in the Freezing Saddles subforum, here http://bikearlingtonforum.com/forumd...ng-Competition ), where we argue about things like e-bikes, and whether 10 points per day is the right number and other rules minutia. Past rules are subject to change in the yearly planning process. Sometime around Thanksgiving someone usually puts up the registration information. Registration typically closes on Christmas Eve, and/or when we have reached the participation limit. In 2017, we capped the number of players at 250 to try to keep the game and the data collection manageable.

    We use Strava for data collection and team organization, which means that to play, you will need a Strava account and after teams are created, you will need to join your team’s Strava group. You will also need some sort of GPS device or smartphone to track your rides. We no longer count manually entered rides (not because we don’t trust you, they just tended to cause too much data corrective work for the leaderboard techie gurus).

    We use a leaderboard application http://freezingsaddles.com/ developed and maintained by awesome forum member hozn to report on team and individual points and all kinds of other cool riding metrics with team/individual standings. Plus pictures. Players need to authorize this app to read your Strava data, or Strava rightly will not give us access to it.

    People also offer up “Pointless Prizes”, prizes for whatever kind of random things strikes the fancy of the person offering the prize. These are generally announced on postings in the Freezing Saddles subforum of the BikeArlington Forum.

    We generally have a happy hour near the start of the game to formally announce teams and after the end of the game to hand out prizes. These are fun, but attendance is not mandatory.

    2017 Rules (again, subject to change in future years!!!):

    1) Scoring: You earn 10 points each day that you ride (one mile minimum to count for your daily points-- this is per day, not per ride: two half mile rides gets you your 10 points). You earn an additional one point for every mile.

    The team with the most points at the end of the game wins.

    2) Game runs 00:00:01am January 1 through 23:59:59 pm March 19 (is that the last day of winter?). All rides starting from January 1 on count. If you are planning to get a super-early start and be out riding your bike as the year changes, be aware that rides starting *before* midnight will not be counted by the leaderboard. You need to stop your recording device and restart a new ride after midnight for your miles in 2017 to count.

    3) Trainer rides don’t count. Mark your rides as such or include #NOBAFS in the title to exclude them. Take your bike outside and ride it some distance across the surface of the earth in order to earn points. Manual entries will also not be accepted. This is a change from previous years.

    4) Rides made while travelling out of the area do count. On vacation somewhere warm? Lucky you! Find a bike and ride it for some points. Somewhere extra cold? sososorry. Find a bike and ride it for some points!

    5) Rides made on E-assist (but not solely electric/motor powered) bikes do count. Also rides made on vaguely bike-like human-powered vehicles. See here: http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...-Elf)&p=130138

    6) Anyone can award a Pointless Prize for anything. Go check out the thread for what people are offering, and feel free to join in and award something yourself. (these are typically small fun or cute or symbolic things, not high dollar prizes or anything. But whatever you want! No one will probably argue about you throwing money or new bikes at them if you so desire.)
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    Default late registration??

    I know someone who is totally interested and I forgot till now to send him the info...I feel its my fault...can he register late? and how?


    Quote Originally Posted by Amalitza View Post
    Updated 1/1/2016: Freezing Saddles has begun!


    ****PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS THREAD. **** This is a post to provide a single spot for information you will need to participate in this yearís Bike Arlington Freezing Saddles (BAFS). I will update this post as needed to keep information current. If you have a question, or think that something needs to be added or changed in this post, PM me please.
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    Freezing Saddles runs from January 1st through the end of winter. This year's game has begun! We should go for a bike ride! Don't forget to record your rides on Strava for points.

    Opening Happy Hour Thursday January 7. Go here for information and to RSVP. http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...076#post130076


    **Pointless Prizes 2016: offer up your pointless prizes here http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...ss-Prizes-2016 Last year's pointless prizes here for inspiration http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...es-2015/page18

    http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...of-the-FS-2016
    http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...ntless-Prize-2
    http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...-3-Beerneuring

    **Volunteers: General call for/list of volunteers here http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...298#post129298

    other possibly interesting threads...

    http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...in-on-Sunyata)

    http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...-for-BAFS-2016

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    Registration has officially ended. If you registered, please be sure to do steps 2-4 to make it onto a team:

    1) Submit registration form here: http://freezingsaddles.x10host.com/ This puts you on the list to be assigned to a team. Registration is now closed and teams have been assigned. If you didn't register on time, you can still fill out the form for late registration. Late people might be added to teams if not everyone who registered joins their team, or there might be some sort of addition to trailing teams later in the game. We haven't really decided.

    2) Authorize scoring app here: http://freezingsaddles.com/authorize This gives permission to our leaderboard app to read your strava data.

    3) Join the Freezing Saddles Strava Club here: https://www.strava.com/clubs/170309 This is where the leaderboard app will look for players.

    Note: The leaderboard is recording rides. If you have done both step 2) and step 3), you (and your rides) should be showing up on it. If you are not, double check to make sure you are part of the strava club, and try reauthorizing the leaderboard. (It only updates every hour(?) or so, so don't panic if your ride doesn't show up immediately.)

    4) Team assignments are complete and will be announced at January 7 happy hour (and then posted on the forum later that night or the next day). You will need find out what team you're on, and join the new Strava club that someone on your team will create. (These new strava teams will then be pulled into the leaderboard to automatically group team members and add up team scores. So actual people don't have to do math.)

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    General Description of game play and rules:
    Disclaimer: I am not in charge of the rules. This is based on my memory from last year and is subject to change due to my memory being wrong or the group deciding to change something this year. Donít assume itís set it stone, itís just here so new people have a good sense of what theyíre getting into. (edit Jan 1: However, they've been posted here awhile now and no one has argued about or questioned them, which probably makes them about as close to official as anything in this game ever gets.)

    Rules:

    1) Scoring: You earn 10 points each day that you ride (one mile minimum to count for your daily points-- this is per day, not per ride: two half mile rides gets you your 10 points). You earn an additional one point for every mile.

    The team with the most points at the end of the game wins.

    2) Game runs 00:00:01am January 1 through 23:59:59 pm March 19 (is that the last day of winter?). Yes, even if teams arenít announced until January 7. All rides starting from January 1 on count.

    3) Trainer rides donít count. Mark your rides as such or include #NOBAFS in the title to exclude them. Take your bike outside and ride it some distance across the surface of the earth in order to earn points.

    4) Rides made while travelling out of the area do count. On vacation somewhere warm? Lucky you! Find a bike and ride it for some points. Somewhere extra cold? sososorry. Find a bike and ride it for some points!

    5) Rides made on E-assist (but not solely electric/motor powered) bikes do count. Also rides made on vaguely bike-like human-powered vehicles. See here: http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...090#post130090

    6) Anyone can award a Pointless Prize for anything. Go check out the thread for what people are offering, and feel free to join in and award something yourself. (these are typically small fun or cute or symbolic things, not high dollar prizes or anything. But whatever you want! No one will probably argue about you throwing money or new bikes at them if you so desire.)

    General Description of game play, details of data collection, etc

    1) We divide people into teams of 9-10 people. Each team is a mix of riders who typically ride enough to qualify as insane, people who ride regularly but like sane people, people who ride occasionally, and people who have never ridden through a winter before. An attempt is made to keep the mix roughly comparable for all the teams so they are approximately evenly matched. If you donít ride much, that is not just ok but an essential part of the game: all the teams need ďdonít ride so muchĒ people along with ďride lots and lotsĒ people, so if not you, itíll just be someone else. Come play!

    2) Visit the pointless prize thread and others in the freezing saddles subforum to see what pointless prizes, side bets, and other random games are being played. I am not going to try to keep up with links to every possible FS-related thread here to keep it from getting too complicated, but there is a lot of optional game-play and socializing you can participate in. You may want to link Instagram and #BAFS2016 your pics, or #kidical rides with kids. The leaderboard also collects cool data like weather, elevation, time in saddle, so when it is ready, spend some time poking around there if you havenít.


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    Default Any update to add people to teams?

    Just wondering if they will be adding people to teams? I'm still riding but not on a team. Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by skibumleg View Post
    Just wondering if they will be adding people to teams? I'm still riding but not on a team. Thanks!
    Some teams are still missing members, and substitutions will likely be made. Sunyata is in charge of that...

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    Default Registration form won't go through

    It doesn't seem to like my Strava number, even though it's definitely the right one. Not sure what's up. Here's a screenshot:

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammyiam View Post
    It doesn't seem to like my Strava number, even though it's definitely the right one. Not sure what's up. Here's a screenshot:

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    Hmm, can you try again? I just put in that exact Strava number, and it went through fine. I'm wondering whether maybe you put in a space at the beginning or end of the number that caused the problem.

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    Maybe make sure you don't have JavaScript disabled (or Noscript extension enabled?) ... ? And/or try a different browser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sammyiam View Post
    It doesn't seem to like my Strava number
    Quote Originally Posted by cvcalhoun View Post
    Hmm, can you try again? I just put in that exact Strava number, and it went through fine.
    Quote Originally Posted by hozn View Post
    Maybe make sure you don't have JavaScript disabled (or Noscript extension enabled?) ... ? And/or try a different browser.
    Looks like you need a BAFS Technical support thread as well :P

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