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    Quote Originally Posted by dbb View Post
    Everybody should be aware that we need to say what needs to be said regarding e-bikes by 5 Nov 2017 (shift off daylight savings time), at which time we will shift to the regularly scheduled debate about bike lights on the trails that are too bright/annoyingly flashy/poorly aimed/not used.

    Thank you.
    What, I'm not allowed to complain about bike lights on the trails that are too bright/annoyingly flashy/poorly aimed/not used now? How am I supposed to keep these things straight? I know, let's have an argument about which dates are appropriate for which arguments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvcalhoun View Post
    What, I'm not allowed to complain about bike lights on the trails that are too bright/annoyingly flashy/poorly aimed/not used now? How am I supposed to keep these things straight? I know, let's have an argument about which dates are appropriate for which arguments.
    Given your work schedule, you get permission to complain about bike lights year round and that the metro doesn't run late enough.

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    Default I think we can all agree

    I think every can agree that I am good with my e-bike.

    I can not ride the hills anymore. I am 53, have 4 cardiac stents, and am a cancer survivor. I stopped exercising during the cancer struggles about 5 years ago because of general exhaustion. Because of my cardiac issues, I can not let my pulse get over 120. I bought the e-bike so that I could get some exercise and so I can ride with my teenage daughter. Also, on occasion, commute to work (too hot in the summer though).

    When I am with my daughter, I am going her speed, which is between 12 and 16 mph. When I am alone, I am going an appropriate speed. If I am the only bike on the trail (say at 6 AM on a Tuesday morning), I might average 20-22 on the flats. If it is crowded, I will only pass when it is safe. One advantage of the e-bike is I am not as invested in my momentum.

    I am usually tired when I get back from a ride, which varies from 6 to 20 miles, so I know I am getting exercise.

    My bike is a Trek XM 700. It is a speed pedalec, with top assist speed of 28 mph. It will go faster, but I am doing all the work above 28. My bike does not have a throttle; instead, sensors measure the torque applied to the crank and assist based on that; when riding, it feels like a bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhs1963 View Post

    My bike is a Trek XM 700. It is a speed pedalec, with top assist speed of 28 mph. It will go faster, but I am doing all the work above 28. My bike does not have a throttle; instead, sensors measure the torque applied to the crank and assist based on that; when riding, it feels like a bike.

    This is interesting. So when pedaling it feels like a normal bike? Can you turn the pedal assist on and off?

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    WABA's Greg Billing, Montgomery County's Casey Anderson and ebike opponent Paul Basken are on today's Kojo Nnamdi show talking about ebikes on DC area trails.
    Last edited by Dewey; 08-16-2017 at 11:59 AM.

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    I'm going to call in and just start reading this thread bulldozer style.

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    It's never the wrong time to argue about fenders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judd View Post
    This is interesting. So when pedaling it feels like a normal bike? Can you turn the pedal assist on and off?
    Yes. It has five levels: Turbo, Sport, Touring, Eco and off.

    On flat:

    Turbo feels like riding down hill (3% grade)
    Sport is more like a 2% grade,
    touring is like a nice tail wind
    Eco makes it feel like a regular bike (no extra weight)

    Off is hard because of the extra weight.

    Trek makes a good product.

    And it has fenders.

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    One point rarely discussed is the stopping distance. E-bikes are heavier but generally have front and rear disk brakes. On the downhill they go about the same speed as a traditional commuter bike. In a panic stop I would expect disk brakes to greatly outperform a single coaster brake or a pair of v-brakes. Should we ban bikes without disk brakes on trails because riders can go faster than 30 downhill but can't stop adequately? Ebikes are used to improve uphill speed where stopping quickly isn't hard even without disk brakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dhs1963 View Post
    And it has fenders.
    Well then it should be banned based on the pansy-assed nature of the purchaser.

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