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    Quote Originally Posted by dhs1963 View Post
    But, person to person, the weight varies a lot.

    For example, if I buy a 15 lb road bike, I will be pushing 275 lbs up the hill. On the other hand, a 30 lb bike will have me pushing 290, which is a 7% difference.

    On the other hand, someone who weighs 135 will have total weights of 150 and 165, or a 10% difference.
    Well, getting back to the braking thing, I'm pretty sure brakes only "care" about total system mass, not percentage difference between lighter people riding heavy bikes, heavy people riding lighter bikes, lighter people riding lighter bikes, or heavy people riding heavy bikes.

    More mass = more skids.



    (since tire grip ultimately determines whether you can panic stop your bike and not turn into a pile in a ditch)

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFHokie View Post
    Tangent: I though this was photo shopped until I saw that water bikes are a thing...

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    Another article to feed the discussion
    https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cu...bike-conundrum

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    That article captured my feelings of inevitability and loss. e-bikes will inevitably become dominant. bicycles will go the way of the penny farthing and be lost. The starkest "inevitable loss" is death. And death makes me sad. I am better than death, but death will win. I am better than ebikes, but ebikes will win.

    And they should get in the road with other motorized transport.

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    Smile Buh-bye Big Guys

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Meatmotor View Post
    Well, getting back to the braking thing, I'm pretty sure brakes only "care" about total system mass, not percentage difference between lighter people riding heavy bikes, heavy people riding lighter bikes, lighter people riding lighter bikes, or heavy people riding heavy bikes.

    More mass = more skids.



    (since tire grip ultimately determines whether you can panic stop your bike and not turn into a pile in a ditch)
    Yes! Guys! We should have a weight restriction on bicycle use on the trails. Anyone with combined mass greater than me+ebike has to go.

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    Wow, I found that article elitist and off-putting. You have to earn your commute? Maybe one small segment feels that way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crickey7 View Post
    Wow, I found that article elitist and off-putting. You have to earn your commute? Maybe one small segment feels that way.
    That one sentence might have been, but the article as a whole explored the whole gamut of feelings on the topic. Reflective of this whole thread really. Even had admissions from old guard cyclists how neat ebikes were to ride. Maybe that sentence should get the most attention. It's not hard to understand that ebikes are the same but different. The parts that are the same are easy to like. The parts that are different are harder to like.

    I also learned that the PR folks for ebikes want them to be called electric assist bikes which is a long phrase. So e-ass bikes it is.

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    So what I'm getting from this is that my excessive body weight plus the weight of my overloaded heavy (but unassisted) hybrid is such that I shouldn't be allowed on the trails, either. Good to know.

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    What I got from the article, aside from the elegiac aspects (because The New Yorker, yes, The New Yorker) was that people can and will ride ebikes in PBLs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cvcalhoun View Post
    So what I'm getting from this is that my excessive body weight plus the weight of my overloaded heavy (but unassisted) hybrid is such that I shouldn't be allowed on the trails, either. Good to know.
    Yeah, I'm looking forward to breaking that stupid rule in the future myself.

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