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    Quote Originally Posted by anomad View Post
    I'll take you on some great singletrack out West that's open to both.
    Yeah, I should've added a minor caveat that just about anywhere west of the Mississippi the bigger land use question is between ATVs, Motos, side-by-sides, and OHV Passenger vehicles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hozn View Post
    I think "earning speed" applies to the road too, but there it's more about the danger you pose to others. There's a lot of riding experience needed before someone can mix in a group ride and right now the way you get fast enough to get in that group ride is by riding a ton. There are some exceptions -- aka "triathletes"
    There! Can't we all just unify around making fun of triathletes and end this bikering over ebikes?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOUhAftzVOg

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    Whatever people think about ebikes... They are here to stay. We better just start figuring out how to ride with them and the "individuals" using them. The ebike pilots will hopefully prove to be a similar bell curve distribution of the rest of society.

    Bicycles will go the way of horses and sails in some ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anomad View Post
    Whatever people think about ebikes... They are here to stay. We better just start figuring out how to ride with them and the "individuals" using them. The ebike pilots will hopefully prove to be a similar bell curve distribution of the rest of society.

    Bicycles will go the way of horses and sails in some ways.
    Bite thy tongue. The velmoninati shall take thee to the Inquisition. E-Bikes are here to stay and that is a good thing. Who knows, if there is enough adoption, maybe it changes road use. One can hope.

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    Elsewhere on the Forum there was a lot of consternation about a gasoline power-assisted bike on the MVT. However, it seems that a lot of the arguments made about e-bikes would also apply to this bike. What's the difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sjclaeys View Post
    Elsewhere on the Forum there was a lot of consternation about a gasoline power-assisted bike on the MVT. However, it seems that a lot of the arguments made about e-bikes would also apply to this bike. What's the difference?
    Such a bike would be legally classified as a moped due to the gasoline motor, and mopeds are prohibited on trails per Virginia code (although seemingly by exclusion in the pertinent statute, which explicitly allows e-bikes, BTW.) Mopeds are also barred from sidewalks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelsDC View Post
    Such a bike would be legally classified as a moped due to the gasoline motor, and mopeds are prohibited on trails per Virginia code (although seemingly by exclusion in the pertinent statute, which explicitly allows e-bikes, BTW.) Mopeds are also barred from sidewalks.
    perhaps sjclaeys was making a normative statement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstone View Post
    There! Can't we all just unify around making fun of triathletes and end this bikering over ebikes?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOUhAftzVOg
    Rule 42 has always been my favorite rule to break.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Meatmotor View Post
    perhaps sjclaeys was making a normative statement?
    How is the question he asked a normative statement? A normative statement would be: The biking community should embrace e-bikes and direct its energy toward getting safe and consistent standards enshrined into law and adopted by manufacturers.

    Reading between the lines, he seemed to be suggesting that the pro e-bike argument is not valid or at least inconsistent because some drew a seemingly arbitrary distinction between "good" motors (electric) and "bad" motors (gas) on bikes when complaining about the gas-powered bike. But the distinctions between these types of bikes are pretty clearly delineated in the law, so there is no inconsistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelsDC View Post
    Reading between the lines, he seemed to be suggesting that the pro e-bike argument is not valid or at least inconsistent because some drew a seemingly arbitrary distinction between "good" motors (electric) and "bad" motors (gas) on bikes when complaining about the gas-powered bike. But the distinctions between these types of bikes are pretty clearly delineated in the law, so there is no inconsistency.
    Unless the statutes are inconsistent with the laws of physics.

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