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    I have an Mavic Aksium road bike rear wheel that sometimes makes a a ghoulish howling sound when I freewheel. My internet sleuthing skills indicate that I need to relubricate the hubs using mineral oil.
    See [URL="http://velonews.competitor.com/2006/10/bikes-and-tech/technical-faq/technical-faq-noisy-mavic-freehubs_101299"] or http://bicyclethailand.com/forum/bic...bs-how-to-fix/. The question I have is can I use regular drug store mineral oil to fix this, or do I need to get something from the bike store? We apparently have a ton of the drug store stuff around my house. Thanks.

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    If its making bad/loud noises its likely that the bush and bearing are shot.

    Before you tear it down, grab the big sprocket on your cassette and rock it to check for play. If you see movement your hub probably has the chronic Mavic bush wear. They use a nylon bush as the inner bearing, and once enough road frass finds its way past the inner seal that bush wears down. The best solution is to rebuild it with ceramic bearings using this kit - http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HUBDOCTO...-/330940493909
    I did mine early this season and its been silky smooth ever since. Here's a bit more info - http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...5786#post85786

    After being stumped by the fact that Mavic's mineral oil and Perdo's Road Rage mineral oil are both unobtanium, I went hunting. Turns out LQ5 is a good weatherised and filtered lubricant that works perfectly on the Mavic freewheel hub.
    https://liquifix.com/store/lq5-angler-grade-lubricant/
    McLean Hardware has it in stock - 4oz bottle for $5.00, but you are welcome to use mine for the few drops it takes to lube the pawls. I'm in McLean.

    Likewise if you are a bit antsy about rebuilding the hub just grab the kit and bring it over to my place. It takes a bit over an hour to do it, and most of that is cleaning parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by APKhaos View Post
    If its making bad/loud noises its likely that the bush and bearing are shot.

    Before you tear it down, grab the big sprocket on your cassette and rock it to check for play. If you see movement your hub probably has the chronic Mavic bush wear. They use a nylon bush as the inner bearing, and once enough road frass finds its way past the inner seal that bush wears down. The best solution is to rebuild it with ceramic bearings using this kit - http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-HUBDOCTO...-/330940493909
    I did mine early this season and its been silky smooth ever since. Here's a bit more info - http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showth...5786#post85786

    After being stumped by the fact that Mavic's mineral oil and Perdo's Road Rage mineral oil are both unobtanium, I went hunting. Turns out LQ5 is a good weatherised and filtered lubricant that works perfectly on the Mavic freewheel hub.
    https://liquifix.com/store/lq5-angler-grade-lubricant/
    McLean Hardware has it in stock - 4oz bottle for $5.00, but you are welcome to use mine for the few drops it takes to lube the pawls. I'm in McLean.

    Likewise if you are a bit antsy about rebuilding the hub just grab the kit and bring it over to my place. It takes a bit over an hour to do it, and most of that is cleaning parts.

    Thanks. I may try the re-lubrication first because I have spent enough on my bike lately.

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    If the bush and bearing are worn then no amount of lubrication will solve the problem. Check the play by rocking your cassette. If there is movement, you now know why. It will also be wearing your cassette and chain at a higher rate too.

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    The hub is pretty solid, which brings me back to the original question - is drug store mineral oil the same as the bike store stuff? I'm guessing not.

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    I don't think all mineral oils are the same. Google result suggested sewing machine oil would be right viscosity - but may not last as long?

    http://www.bikeradar.com/forums/view...php?p=16997066

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    As a woodworker and owner of soapstone counter tops (which like to be oiled occassionally) I can say that drug store mineral oil is a little different than regular mineral oil. Drug store mineral oil pours thicker; it's sold as a laxative and is fortified with certain vitamins. 100% mineral oil without additives can be found at Woodcraft, a woodworker store with 4 or 5 locations around the fringes of the Beltway.

    Johnson & Johnson baby oil is just mineral oil with fragrance. It's viscosity is probably closer to 100% mineral oil than the laxative kind is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MFC View Post
    The hub is pretty solid, which brings me back to the original question - is drug store mineral oil the same as the bike store stuff? I'm guessing not.
    LQ5 is a good weatherised and filtered mineral oil that works perfectly on the Mavic freewheel hub.
    https://liquifix.com/store/lq5-angler-grade-lubricant/
    McLean Hardware has it in stock - 4oz bottle for $5.00, but you are welcome to use mine for the few drops it takes to lube the pawls. I'm in McLean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APKhaos View Post
    LQ5 is a good weatherised and filtered mineral oil that works perfectly on the Mavic freewheel hub.
    https://liquifix.com/store/lq5-angler-grade-lubricant/
    McLean Hardware has it in stock - 4oz bottle for $5.00, but you are welcome to use mine for the few drops it takes to lube the pawls. I'm in McLean.
    Thanks for the offer, and thanks to you and Brendan von Buckingham for the information. I'm in Alexandria so I may see what I can get at the LBS or the hardware store, or maybe try Amazon.

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    FYI, pulled the hub apart, re-lubricated it, and it seems to be working fine. I used sewing machine because my LBS did not have a specific oil that they sold for hubs and we had the sewing machine oil around our house. I wasn't sure whether I would be able to get a wood oil with the right viscosity. Apparently, a lot of shops use Shimano disc brake oil. Thanks to everyone for the encouragement and advice.

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