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    Quote Originally Posted by ursus View Post
    Can someone mention at least one light with a cutoff pattern? I am unfamiliar with this.
    Yes, Peter White Cycles has them, and other online retailers do too. I use a B&M Ixon IQ, which is battery powered, and doesn't require a generator hub. It uses AA rechargeables, but you don't need to remove them to charge, you just plug the entire unit into the wall with an AC adapter. If you want to do a long night ride, you can just carry spare batteries with you. You can also buy additional mounts so you can use the light on more than one bike. Mounts for handelbars/rack nubs are available. It costs more than a Cygolite, and it's physically larger. But I think it's worth $100, if you're going to use it every night from October through March, year after year. I've used mine for the last two winters, no problem. I do carry a cheap Cygolite as backup, but I've never needed it.

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    Perhaps getting back to topic here …. a few missed connections over the past 1.5 weeks.

    Encounter one:
    Me: riding south on the MVT approaching the first left by the Merchant Marine memorial. I stick my left arm out to indicate a turn and pull if back quick to use my brakes.
    You: Walking the trail with a back pack, dressed like a hiker. See me stick my arm out and point, so starts to randomly point at the sky, a tree, the ground, etc.
    Me: "I am signaling a left turn" and shake my head in wonder.

    Encounter two:
    Us (I am with a cycling buddy): Northbound on 4MRT approaching the ford south of Glen Carlyn park. We see you (group of three teens) heading south and we make sure that we are on the right side of the trail and ford.
    First teen: cycling pretty far to your left, but manages to see us and move over in time
    Second teen: cycling even further to the left and moves just barely when about to hit the first of us (who is pretty far over to the right at this point, but not wanting to fall off the ford - that one is high).
    Us: "STAY TO YOUR RIGHT"
    Third teen: manages to be at the center of the ford rather than left of center.

    Doesn't anyone teach people to stay to the right?

    Third encounter (after dark, before 8pm):
    Me: exiting the Custis at Harrison from the east. Seeing a car from the left heading north, I stop before I enter the street (I plan to turn right/north), and wait, turning my head to the right to indicate that I am waiting for you to go. I know that you will need to pass me if I go, so better to wait the few seconds.
    You: stop before the curb cut and wait.
    Me: still looking North.
    You: waiting and eventually honking.
    Me: I indicate with my left arm that I am turning right/north, while still looking away.
    You: wait, then go, shouting out your window "Listen, {BLEEP}, I was trying to do you a favor!!!" Then proceeds to speed up Harrison.
    Me: "And I was trying to do you one by not making you pass me" but she was already two streets away. I did wonder if she ever looked in her mirror and noticed I was behind her.

    Why do people get so angry for not allowing them to do you a "favor"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by consularrider View Post
    Actually, yes it would. My light is dynamo power and sits just above the front wheel so I'd likely do an endo if I reached down to cover it.
    So that guy was definitely just being a dork, then. In my experience at least, dynamo lights tend to be mounted close enough to the ground that the only way they could blind someone would be if they were tilted up (rendering them useless to the cyclist), or the oncoming trail user is a either small child or a "little person" (I think that's the currently appropriate term).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drewdane View Post
    So that guy was definitely just being a dork, then. In my experience at least, dynamo lights tend to be mounted close enough to the ground that the only way they could blind someone would be if they were tilted up (rendering them useless to the cyclist), or the oncoming trail user is a either small child or a "little person" (I think that's the currently appropriate term).
    The other time I sometimes see a problem is when there’s a hill involved which changes all the light angles.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ginacico View Post
    Last night I was driving my way out of backwoods Manassas on a twisty, hilly, 2-lane road with zero street lights and no shoulders. There were lots of cars coming the other direction (half of which forgot to dim their high beams). Did I politely turn off my headlights for every one of them? No. Because passing each other in pitch darkness seems stupid.
    I love this, it's a perfect response.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcv View Post
    I love this, it's a perfect response.
    Thanks dcv.

    Goes w/o saying the consequences are worse if colliding with an oncoming ton of steel at high speeds.

    I freak out for the opposite reason. On a dark trail at night, see an oncoming cyclist. Suddenly he disappears, having “politely” covered his headlight. WTF where’d he go?!? How am I supposed to avoid hitting someone I can’t see? Am I past him yet? Terrifying. Far worse if I reciprocate and we’re both groping around in the dark with only one hand on the controls. I just don’t get why we’ve developed different protocols for driving cars and riding bikes. The answer, as mstone says, is because we’ve made up this dumb rule as a twitchy reaction to bad designs and lazy adjustment, then berate each other for not doing the light-fiddling gymnastics. Please stop.

    I’ve had dozens of those scorching flashlights with diffuse beams (the most recent one was literally branded as Scorch 2.0, bright af). If they’re bright enough to light my way, they’re obnoxious for anyone coming toward me. Maybe we should pass out index cards and rubber bands to jury rig hoods over the darn things. Count me in for advocating for better designs even if it means, like Germany, we institute some new standards.

    Last night we rode a fast trip down the W&OD from the Custis, after dusk. Of those oncoming cyclists who had headlights on, about half of them were too bright or pointing askew or flashing (looking at you, CaBi bikes). Not once did my outrage get triggered. My visibility was excellent, so I just kept my hands on the bars and watched my lane, not even bothering to reduce my speed except while passing pedestrians**. Just like driving country roads at night.

    Invest in a decent headlight, use a wall* to adjust where it’s pointing. No strobe, set it and forget it. Ride with two hands on the bars and eyes on your lane, cool as a cucumber.

    *Did this on the 14th St bridge at night. We discovered if it's not busy, the concrete and white railings are ideal for illuminating the beam. Take a friend.

    **Extra kudos to the many runners wearing those neon lights that are like an X-shaped vest, who were highly visible and didn’t flinch as we flew by. You all earn my respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginacico View Post
    Goes w/o saying the consequences are worse if colliding with an oncoming ton of steel at high speeds.
    I'd argue the opposite--a head-on collision between modern cars more likely than not results in everyone walking away without serious injuries; a head-on between two cyclists will almost certainly result in injuries, possibly life-altering.

    I’ve had dozens of those scorching flashlights with diffuse beams (the most recent one was literally branded as Scorch 2.0, bright af). If they’re bright enough to light my way, they’re obnoxious for anyone coming toward me. Maybe we should pass out index cards and rubber bands to jury rig hoods over the darn things. Count me in for advocating for better designs even if it means, like Germany, we institute some new standards.
    One thing worth noting is that the non-cutoff beams are better for off-road use (seeing overhanging branches, twisty trails on hills, etc.) so banning them completely is probably a non-starter. But certainly, on a road or well-maintained trail, a properly shaped beam is better for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginacico View Post
    I freak out for the opposite reason. On a dark trail at night, see an oncoming cyclist. Suddenly he disappears, having “politely” covered his headlight. WTF where’d he go?!? How am I supposed to avoid hitting someone I can’t see? Am I past him yet? Terrifying. Far worse if I reciprocate and we’re both groping around in the dark with only one hand on the controls.
    **Extra kudos to the many runners wearing those neon lights that are like an X-shaped vest, who were highly visible and didn’t flinch as we flew by. You all earn my respect.
    As a reciprocator, I have a blue light attached to my handlebar on the opposite side of my headlight. I can swivel my headlight to the right and away from an approaching rider without removing my hands from the bar. This still allows me to see at least the edge of the trail and the blue light allows me to remain visible while not 'blinding' another rider. I do agree that diverting the light is not really necessary, but I try to be a team player when it seems to bother others.

    Completely agree on joggers/walkers being lit.

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    I appreciate the suggestions for cut-off beam lights. I picked up a Busch & Müller IXON Core IQ2 from Harris Cyclery. (If you can't do the LBS, Harris seems to me about as good as you can do; thank you Sheldon Brown and all you've edumacated me about over the years.) I chose this model because of the USB charging I can easily do mornings at work. I will keep my trusty, 8-year-old helmet light (Niterider 600), which I can swivel due to the magic of a rotatable neck.

    I'm really liking the hijacking of this thread, since one of my goals is to bitch and moan less rather than more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginacico View Post
    **Extra kudos to the many runners wearing those neon lights that are like an X-shaped vest, who were highly visible and didn’t flinch as we flew by. You all earn my respect.
    I just bought me that vest for running.... and also using it for cycling!!!!! It's called Noxgear and it's on sale right now and it's amazing!!!!!
    https://www.noxgear.com/

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