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    Quote Originally Posted by GovernorSilver View Post
    I was wondering if anybody ever rides the wrong way on a bike lane.

    It would be a test of my patience for sure if encountered another cyclist barreling head on towards me in a bike lane. Might need to start carrying another "tool" if this becomes a widespread "thing"

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    This happens more often than I'd prefer, especially on the two lane 15th St cycle track. And last night I was riding up 29 from DC. Nearing Spout Run there was another cyclist salmoning in the bike lane heading directly toward me. After dark. I kept checking over my shoulder to see if I could take the lane, but cars were there and continued to pass me. Luckily said salmon finally detoured to the sidewalk. Good times!
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    Quote Originally Posted by GovernorSilver View Post
    I was wondering if anybody ever rides the wrong way on a bike lane. It would be a test of my patience for sure if encountered another cyclist barreling head on towards me in a bike lane.
    Not sure if you're being serious here, but I see bike-lane salmons all the time. The worst location for this has got to be the westernmost part of the M Street PBL, from about 22nd to Rock Creek. When I go through there (usually late evening), I see a bicycle heading east in the cycletrack at least 1 out of every 10 rides. Between that, peds randomly stepping off sidewalks, the construction forcing peds into the PBL, and the sparse late traffic on a multi-lane street, I've stopped using that bike lane entirely. (Unless I happen to go through in rush hour congestion; in that case I will certainly use it. Otherwise it's so much easier to just ride down the middle of the street.)

    Other spots I recall having at least one such encounter: L St near Vermont/14th, R St near Dupont, Walter Reed between 5th and 9th, S Joyce near Pentagon City, N Lynn in Rosslyn, Beulah between Franconia and Telegraph.

    Interesting: one thing those locations all seem to have in common is that they're fairly flat. On the other hand, I ride Wilson/Clarendon very often between Rosslyn and Clarendon, and I have never seen a salmon bicycle on either of them. Several cars though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Birru View Post
    This happens more often than I'd prefer, especially on the two lane 15th St cycle track. And last night I was riding up 29 from DC. Nearing Spout Run there was another cyclist salmoning in the bike lane heading directly toward me. After dark. I kept checking over my shoulder to see if I could take the lane, but cars were there and continued to pass me. Luckily said salmon finally detoured to the sidewalk. Good times!
    That seems to be most of my experience with bike lane salmon. We approach, I hold my line (assertively, not aggressively), and (probably because of my size) the salmon will move out of the way. Sometimes, I will tell the salmon that they're going the wrong way, and sometimes they will respond with an infuriating, "I know." (I know? Then DON'T DO IT).

    To be honest, I can slightly sympathize with the bike lane salmon in one way. In most cases, the bike lane (especially if it's a protected bike lane) is the calmest space when compared to a sidewalk with pedestrians, dogs, poles, trees, mailboxes, drivers-leaving-driveways, etc. and a roadway with speeding/aggressive/distracted/oblivious drivers. I don't condone salmoning in a bike lane, but I can understand how it could be a viable choice for someone looking to quickly and safely (in their mind) get somewhere for a short distance like a block or two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoot View Post
    Not sure if you're being serious here, but I see bike-lane salmons all the time. The worst location for this has got to be the westernmost part of the M Street PBL, from about 22nd to Rock Creek. When I go through there (usually late evening), I see a bicycle heading east in the cycletrack at least 1 out of every 10 rides. Between that, peds randomly stepping off sidewalks, the construction forcing peds into the PBL, and the sparse late traffic on a multi-lane street, I've stopped using that bike lane entirely. (Unless I happen to go through in rush hour congestion; in that case I will certainly use it. Otherwise it's so much easier to just ride down the middle of the street.)

    Other spots I recall having at least one such encounter: L St near Vermont/14th, R St near Dupont, Walter Reed between 5th and 9th, S Joyce near Pentagon City, N Lynn in Rosslyn, Beulah between Franconia and Telegraph.

    Interesting: one thing those locations all seem to have in common is that they're fairly flat. On the other hand, I ride Wilson/Clarendon very often between Rosslyn and Clarendon, and I have never seen a salmon bicycle on either of them. Several cars though...
    Yeah, that was a serious question - asked out of simple curiosity, not intended to troll.

    My old route was Alexandria->MVT->14 St. Bridge->15th to Nat. Mall->Louisiana Ave->N. Capitol St. I haven't ridden much on the bike lanes you mention.

    The only salmon I've encountered of late is somebody trying to ride up Jamison where it's temporarily a one-way, but that's a sharrow, not a bike lane.
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    15th Street is two ways, so even if someone is on the wrong side of it, they are at least supposed to be in the PBL

    M and L are one way PBLs, and the nearest PBL in the other direction is on a different street.

    Eads has PBLs in each direction, on opposite of sides of the street. Going SB in the NB lane someone is totally in the wrong place, in a PBL not designed for two way passing. And the PBL in the correct direction is right there.

    The person I encountered either was unwilling to cross the street to get to the SB PBL. Or they didn't realize there was a SB PBL, and unlike the confounded CaBi riders, was a jerk about having that pointed out. Or they were high. Or some combination.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GovernorSilver View Post
    Yeah, that was a serious question - asked out of simple curiosity, not intended to troll.
    FWIW, I never suspected you of trolling. I just thought you might have been making a joke so that you could post that pic.

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    Oh yeah, the jousting pic was a joke, in response to the post advising us to just be happy that the crazy/high salmon was on a bike and not in a car.

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    I saw a scary close call crossing Constitution Ave this morning at 15th. Lots of cyclists, peds, and shoalers waited until we got the crosswalk light then proceeded to maneuver across from both sides of the road. Suddenly a car came out of nowhere, the driver had gunned it and blown the red light heading westbound on Constitution. Screeching, smoking tires and shouts from the people crossing southbound, whose lives were narrowly spared as the car somehow stopped in time.

    The guy drove off, of course. In hindsight, there were enough people there, we should've surrounded him until we got pics and a license plate number and filed a report. It's not enough to assume they learned their lesson.

    Hate this intersection!
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    Default Missed connection: Swift Justice

    This happened yesterday, and I got it on video.

    As I was biking on Pegram St in Alexandria, I approached the intersection with Taney Ave which is a 4-way stop. I slowed to a crawl, then started into the intersection when a driver on Taney Ave blows through the stop sign. She would have hit me if I hadn't slowed in anticipation. But then something interesting happened...

    Suddenly, I hear a WOOP! WOOOOP! behind me. An Alexandria police SUV had been right behind me, saw the whole thing, and immediately turned on their lights/siren to pull the driver over! Swift justice!


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    Quote Originally Posted by bobco85 View Post
    This happened yesterday, and I got it on video.

    As I was biking on Pegram St in Alexandria, I approached the intersection with Taney Ave which is a 4-way stop. I slowed to a crawl, then started into the intersection when a driver on Taney Ave blows through the stop sign. She would have hit me if I hadn't slowed in anticipation. But then something interesting happened...

    Suddenly, I hear a WOOP! WOOOOP! behind me. An Alexandria police SUV had been right behind me, saw the whole thing, and immediately turned on their lights/siren to pull the driver over! Swift justice!


    Transcript:
    ::Bike gear noises::
    ::Siren sounds::
    Bobco: "Oh, wow!"

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