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    Cool Let's talk about Rosslyn

    So I volunteered at the last BAC meeting to be the BAC liaison to the "Realize Rosslyn" planning effort. For those who don't know, Arlington is working to update the Rosslyn Sector plan which will outline what we want Rosslyn to look like in the future in regard to building height, street layout, parks, use mix (office / residential / etc).

    They have been gathering ideas for a number of months now and are starting to coalesce those ideas into a framework of principals and then further into a draft sector plan. The major "themes" at this point are:

    1.Transform commuter corridors into places for people
    2.Connect to regional parks and the Potomac River
    3.Create a sustainable Rosslyn through mixed uses and energy infrastructure
    4.Vary building height for great public spaces, views and skyline
    5.Unite Rosslyn along an extended 18th Street

    And the ideas coming out of that at this point include some great things for cyclists like:
    1) converting Lynn & Ft Myer Drive to 2 way streets
    2) rebalancing many of the streets to include dedicated bike facilities and wider sidewalks at the expense of travel lanes
    3) adding additional trail connections
    4) connecting 18th Street through the core of Rosslyn, potentially as a car-free or car-lite street.

    The "current thinking" shown to the BAC at the last meeting was this map of a theoretical proposed set of bicycle facilities in Rosslyn. It includes:
    1) a 1-way NB cycle track on Lynn between 50 and 19th
    2) a 2-way cycle track on Lynn between 19th and Lee Hwy
    3) a 1-way SB cycle track on Ft Myer Dr between Lee and 50
    4) a 1-way SB cycle track on Nash between Ft Myer Dr and Wilson
    5) a 2-way cycle track on Wilson between Lynn and Arlington Ridge Rd
    6) a new trail connection between 19th/Arlington Ridge Rd and the Mt Vernon Trail
    7) extensions of the Arlington Boulevard Trail on both sides of 50
    8) a new trail connection to the Roosevelt Bridge
    9) various additional bike lanes

    The primary feedback given at the BAC meeting was: given the difficulty in turning left off of Wilson onto Lynn, people really want a 2-way cycle track on Nash so they can take that through Rosslyn instead of trying to make that left. Also cycletracks = good.

    If you want additional background on what changes may be coming to Rosslyn as a result of this process, I highly recommend THIS document and also THIS document. It helps a lot. Many of these decisions make more sense when seen in the light of the whole framework (like the Rosslyn Esplanade concept, the green loop concept, etc.)

    Now, what ideas do YOU have on making cycling better in Rosslyn? I will compile people's thoughts in a letter right now and also continue to push them throughout the Rosslyn process.
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    Is there a concrete plan to improve the 'intersection of death' (Lynn & Lee Highway)? It's not entirely clear from the supporting docs you link (and that intersection is either right at the edge or outside some of the drawn boundaries on the various slides)

    Or is the vision to just obviate the need for improvements by creating a new connection to the MVT (and TR Bridge) via the 19th/Ridge Road master project?

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    I don't like counterflow or two way cycletracks. The right side of northbound Lynn is busy enough.

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    What about the proposed leasing of the air space above I-66 in Rosslyn? The VA state gov't. has proposed making that available for development, in order to raise revenue for transportation improvements. While it seems that money could go toward funding a new Rosslyn-DC Metro tunnel (to Georgetown?), part of any funds could go to an improved MVT-Custis Trail-Lynn St. crossing.

    http://www.arlnow.com/2013/07/03/va-...ent-over-i-66/

    I know none of this is going to happen soon, if ever, but it could be a great way to provide a real fix for the Lynn St. intersection. Perhaps a future developer could contribute funds for a bike/pedestrian bridge as an alternate crossing of Lynn St. and perhaps Lee Hwy. too. The MVT could split off before reaching Lynn St. A street-level path could remain for those turning north to Key Bridge. The alternate path could go over a bike bridge or bridges, crossing Lynn St. and another bridge crossing Lee Hwy.

    If this or similar proposals were brought up for long-term planning, then the state and Arlington could include such designs in the negotiations with a future developer. Those air rights should be valuable. The buildings would have a prominent location with views of Georgetown, the Kennedy Center and the National Mall. Occupants have easy access to the nearby Metro station, which will be serviced by three lines (incl. the Silver Line next year).

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    Quote Originally Posted by PotomacCyclist View Post
    What about the proposed leasing of the air space above I-66 in Rosslyn? The VA state gov't. has proposed making that available for development, in order to raise revenue for transportation improvements. While it seems that money could go toward funding a new Rosslyn-DC Metro tunnel (to Georgetown?), part of any funds could go to an improved MVT-Custis Trail-Lynn St. crossing.
    I'm going to put in a question about this. I know the study is aware of the air-rights RFP, but I'm not sure to what extent they are accounting for it. I agree that it may be our best shot at a real solution for Lee & Lynn.

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    Thanks, Chris!

    My wish list for Rosslyn, in order of priority (and aside from above):
    1) Fix Lynn/Lee
    2) Separate bikes from others along the Custis sidewalk
    3) Rosslyn - GWMP - Spout Run connection
    4) Improve the connection from the Iwo Jima to N. Meade Street
    5) Improve Key Blvd -- Key Blvd/Scott St (or 18th St, if that becomes a bike/ped street through Rosslyn) connection

    I am SO EXCITED about the possibility of connecting the Iwo Jima to the South side of the TR Bridge. Awesome sauce.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    2) Separate bikes from others along the Custis sidewalk
    How do other folks feel about this? I know there are other cities that have tried this. Anybody have successful models they can point to? PReferably with links and photos and data and whatnot?

    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    3) Rosslyn - GWMP - Spout Run connection
    I believe I know the kind of connection/route you're suggesting here and that it has been deemed infeasible in the past (when they were looking at continuing the MVT all the way through Arlington) as too expensive / too environmentally destructive / too historical viewshed-destroying. Would love to hear more detail though. Perhaps it's different or perhaps things have changed.

    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    4) Improve the connection from the Iwo Jima to N. Meade Street
    This would seem to fit in perfectly with many of those goals of the sector plan. Can you/others outline the problems with this connection as you see them now?

    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    5) Improve Key Blvd -- Key Blvd/Scott St (or 18th St, if that becomes a bike/ped street through Rosslyn) connection
    By "improve" are we talking like bike lanes all along? Or some sort of Bicycle Boulevard treatment? Or are you kinda open to whatever staff thinks might be best in that regard? My biggest issue with that connection is the crazy steepness of the trail section that connects the two pieces of Key Blvd and I'm 'not sure what a good alternative is there. I don't really have a big issue with Key east of there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_s View Post
    4) Improve the connection from the Iwo Jima to N. Meade Street

    This would seem to fit in perfectly with many of those goals of the sector plan. Can you/others outline the problems with this connection as you see them now?
    It's somewhat a similar problem to the intersection of doom, in that the bike 'thruway' goes right in the middle of a major highway interchange. (though maybe more like the Memorial bridge connections on both sides of the river?)

    The (newish) bike lane on Meade goes away just before this point http://goo.gl/maps/8LlWY and you're then on the left of relatively high speed traffic coming off the ramp from eastbound 50.

    Then you got to get over to the right again at this ramp from westbound 50 http://goo.gl/maps/e2KPq - though the bollards help a little as well as the traffic backups that come from the light at the intersection of Fairfax drive which slows things down.

    what has helped it that they occasionally put a temporary traffic light here http://goo.gl/maps/GJ05I (I think a couple weeks before the July 4 fireworks - or it may have just been for construction and resurfacing last year) which slows things down too.

    I am perhaps missing the hyperliteral reading of this point, though it is correct - when coming around the Iwo Jima circle, there's a narrow ADA ramp here: http://goo.gl/maps/Ytnu3 but otherwise one has to go all the way around to the side of the circle http://goo.gl/maps/oU4MH, closest to the Netherlands Clario..., Calrio..., Carli... ... - the Dutch Big Bell Thing. Or go all the way up John Marshall to the Ft Myer gate and then onto Meade. So a better way of cutting through would save a good many minutes and some distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_s View Post
    4) Improve the connection from the Iwo Jima to N. Meade Street

    This would seem to fit in perfectly with many of those goals of the sector plan. Can you/others outline the problems with this connection as you see them now?
    I agree with Kolohe on the need for better bike facilities on N Meade. When I originally wrote this, I was just thinking of the need to have a better way to get from the road around Iwo Jima to N. Meade. The most obvious solution, in my mind, is to build a better ramp along the south side of the ramp from N Meade to 50E. So bikes coming from Marshall Dr would take the (hopefully soon repaved) road into the Iwo Jima Memorial, then turn right onto the circle with cars, then continue onto a new ramp that take bikes up to N Meade. Bonus points if there's a light at the top of that new ramp, so bikes can safely continue on the 50 service road and onto the new trail along 27.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_s View Post
    3) Rosslyn - GWMP - Spout Run connection

    I believe I know the kind of connection/route you're suggesting here and that it has been deemed infeasible in the past (when they were looking at continuing the MVT all the way through Arlington) as too expensive / too environmentally destructive / too historical viewshed-destroying. Would love to hear more detail though. Perhaps it's different or perhaps things have changed.
    The attached shows what I'm talking about. Note that in this area, eastbound GWMP is lower than westbound GWMP - the blue line would be the trail, and while it looks like it crosses eastbound GWMP, it just goes under it.

    Basically it would be a two way path/cycletrack along the south/west side of Spout Run then the GWMP then the ramp to Rosslyn. This isn't a path along the Potomac (which I believe was recently discussed as too expensive / too environmentally destructive / too historical viewshed-destroying). I actually saw this path in an OLD master plan -- wish I had noted which one. Most of it would be easy to build -- I believe there's plenty of width on the ramp to Rosslyn and along the GWMP. The issue would just be along Spout Run and getting it back to Lyon Village, but there are options.

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