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    Quote Originally Posted by DismalScientist View Post
    Well, I guess if you had a federal ID and the guards stopped you to log you in, that would constitute similar treatment between feds and the little people and I wouldn't have a problem with that. Apparently, before the feds only had to "flash" their ID to get on base. Did the ID go through a card reader or the fed go through any other process that would be similar to what non-feds have to go through so that the guards would know who was passing through?
    Before feds went through the same process as military. Sounds like the new rules are non-military feds go through the same process as non-fed. Whether that make sense or not depends on the goals of the program, which I've never seen articulated. Don't forget that people do go through background checks and submit disclosure forms to get these ids. It's not all rainbows and unicorns to work for the federal government.

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    My impression has been that the only difference in process for bicyclists with fed ids vs drivers licenses is that, for drivers licenses, they write down all your info on a clipboard. I've never seen a bicyclist being searched etc. I'm not sure how writing drivers license info on a clipboard is going to make the base safer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrenaut View Post
    For example, I know that DHS completely ignores an active DoD security clearance when it does its own clearance process, and it's a safe bet it goes the other way, too.
    When I went from DoD to NRC, the NRC did not recognize my DoD security clearance. I was going up in clearance level, so I'd have had to go through the investigation anyway, but while it was being processed, I was considered completely without a clearance even though I had one via DoD. When I went back to DoD two years later, since my previous DoD clearance had expired, I had to do it all over again from scratch even though I had a current, higher-level clearance at the NRC. So, yeah, different agencies apparently don't trust each other's processes. I might suggest the government could have saved more money by eliminating that last highly redundant security clearance investigation than they saved by furloughing me this past year. If anyone were to ask me, which they have not.

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    Update: I went through this morning (Monday) by "flashing" my fed ID, as usual. So maybe they either decided not to do the rule change, or the guard this morning wasn't aware, or she just didn't notice that I didn't have a DoD ID.
    I guess I will just make sure to keep my drivers' license easily accessible, just in case.

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    I went though twice showing my Federal ID. No problems. But then again November 1 is this week and they could be waiting until then to start the new policy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mantadiver View Post
    I went though twice showing my Federal ID. No problems. But then again November 1 is this week and they could be waiting until then to start the new policy.
    Of course, because if legitimate base security concerns really are the reason for the change in policy, it can easily wait a few weeks...

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