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    Quote Originally Posted by Subby View Post
    I want to gravel grind! Good deal for this Van Dessel?

    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...983847873.html
    Note that this is merely a cyclocross bike and not a gravel bike: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013...uires-you.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShawnoftheDread View Post
    I'll Rochambeau you for that. Cartman style though.
    I'm done having kids so that might work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DismalScientist View Post
    Note that this is merely a cyclocross bike and not a gravel bike: http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013...uires-you.html
    What's the difference? Tire width/tread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subby View Post
    I want to gravel grind! Good deal for this Van Dessel?

    http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/n...983847873.html
    54cm? That totally won't fit you.

    Me, though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subby View Post
    What's the difference? Tire width/tread?
    Beats me. I'm trying to figure out the difference between a touring bike, cyclocross bike, and a hardtail 29er.

    I can understand how tire type can change the functionality of a bike, but not its classification. It is not as if swapping tires is particularly difficult. (Wheel builds can be different as well, but swapping wheels is similarly easy.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subby View Post
    What's the difference? Tire width/tread?
    Best I can tell, a "gravel" bike is like a cyclocross bike in most respects except that it doesn't have a formed top tube with cables along the top for easy carrying. So it's got all the advantages of a CX bike except that you can't actually use it for CX racing!

    More seriously, I think the idea is just that it's like a road bike with lots of tire clearance, or a CX bike with a little more stable handling and possibly with more climbing gears and mounts for gear for longer expeditions.

    A Bianchi Volpe or a Kona Rove might better be suited for extended (non-technical) dirt/gravel tours than a CX racing bike, even though they are sometimes marketed in the CX category as opposed to road or touring.

    Talk about splitting hairs to try to create a new genre!
    Last edited by Greenbelt; 08-09-2013 at 03:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subby View Post
    What's the difference? Tire width/tread?
    A gravel bike is laterally stiff and vertically compliant, whereas a CX bike is vertically compliant and laterally stiff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subby View Post
    What's the difference? Tire width/tread?
    Note, BSNYC is a humorist...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DismalScientist View Post
    Beats me. I'm trying to figure out the difference between a touring bike, cyclocross bike, and a hardtail 29er.
    Rule number one: shop for features, not labels.

    [ quote]I can understand how tire type can change the functionality of a bike, but not its classification. It is not as if swapping tires is particularly difficult. (Wheel builds can be different as well, but swapping wheels is similarly easy.)[/QUOTE]

    Swapping tires is immensely difficult if there's insufficient clearance. It's also pointless to design for more clearance than intended (usually implying more sturdy construction/weight, and making the bike less aero if you care about that).

    The geometry, bars, clearances, brakes, braze-ons, and strength will generally differ between touring, cyclocross, and 29er bikes, but you'd have to compare specific examples to see what trade offs the designer made.

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