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    Default More riders = More collisions? Maybe.

    This was interesting.
    My first reaction is there are more people riding along the trails and on the streets.
    New riders make more mistakes. I speak from experience...
    And the streets aren't very bike friendly in Fairfax County.
    Therefore, more collisions.

    But it looks like the master plan will go a long way to making it safer.

    http://vienna.patch.com/articles/veh...lowing_3690896

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    Quote Originally Posted by acc View Post
    This was interesting.
    My first reaction is there are more people riding along the trails and on the streets.
    New riders make more mistakes. I speak from experience...
    And the streets aren't very bike friendly in Fairfax County.
    Therefore, more collisions.

    But it looks like the master plan will go a long way to making it safer.

    http://vienna.patch.com/articles/veh...lowing_3690896
    Regarding the article, I had one issue. It states:

    According to Virginia law, bicycles are required to ride as closely to the right curb as possible when driving in the same roadway has vehicles.
    But that doesn't capture the nuance of the law, which actually says:

    Any person operating a bicycle, electric personal assistive mobility device, electric power-assisted bicycle, or moped on a roadway at less than the normal speed of traffic at the time and place under conditions then existing shall ride as close as safely practicable to the right curb or edge of the roadway...( 46.2-905)
    "As far right as safely practicable" in my mind is a LOT different than "as far right as possible".

    Anyway, as someone who commutes into FFX county on surface streets, I'd be happy if there was just more signage. A lot of roads in the county are plenty wide, but drivers just don't expect cyclists like they do in ArlCo or DC. My route takes me on two well-used secondary roads, Chain Bridge Rd. and Westmoreland. Although Westmoreland has bike lanes in spots, the road at times gets pretty narrow, but has sharrows and "share the road signs" and drivers are very gracious. Chain Bridge has lanes that are very wide, but there is no bike infrastructure whatsoever, and guess what, drivers are freakin' jerks (speed limits are the same)...and these are sections of road that intersect, so it's not like I'm riding from the bike-friendly side of the county to the Thunderdome side of the county...it's the same place! But I'm convinced the signage and infrastructure has a profound effect on drivers' perception and awareness of cyclists in the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelsDC View Post
    the bike-friendly side of the county to the Thunderdome side of the county...it's the same place!
    All bets are off once you go on/north of Old Chain Bridge Rd.

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    Make driving a car illegal.

    Problem solved.

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    Old Chain Bridge Road is wide. Too wide. The speed creeps up on that road perceptibly. I agree with all your observations. Westmoreland isn't terrible to ride on in most sections while Old Chain Bridge Road is harrowing. 'Tis unfortunate because Books-a-Million is located next to Total Beverage on OCBR, an inspired bit of retail co-location.

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    I frequent that Total Whine. For beer. The hardware store there is handy too since there's no Home Despot nearby.

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