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    Quote Originally Posted by bentbike33 View Post
    First, at the IOD (where else) I am eastbound waiting for the LPI behind another cyclist, nobody on the other (westbound) side of Lynn. We begin crossing Lynn as the LPI turns on. As the leader approaches the ramp, oblivious driver, focused like a laser beam on potential cars coming from the left, starts his right turn and abruptly stops just short of flattening the leader who with some physics-defying lateral moves makes his way onto the ramp. Meanwhile, I'm in front of the driver now screaming, "HEY! NO TURNS! LOOK AT THE SIGN!" and pointing at the light-up "No Right Turn" sign (hoping it was still on). Not sure if the bro heard me over the sports talk radio in the car, but he was looking right at me. Anyway, got out of the street, asked the other rider if he was OK, he was, and off I went. It occurs to me, the IOD needs two things: a second one of those "No Right Turn" light-up signs, but this one positioned on the other side of Lee Highway over the rightmost lane of Lynn Street facing north, i.e., in the field of view of the right-on-red drivers; and yellow strobes around both signs that flash when the signs are lit.
    It was IOD day then. (When isn't it?) This morning, I was first in line, and the first dumptruck went through right as the light was changing. This is always bad news because the visibility of the guy behind is now shite, but in this case, the guy behind was a second dumptruck. I went through anyway and held him off in the end with my evil glare of death that promised fire and fury and whatnot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KWL View Post
    ...Note to self: Be more diligent in checking rim wear.
    Checking my maintenance records I see this rain bike wheelset had over 10,000 miles on it. Yeah, I should have been checking for wear a little closer at that distance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bentbike33 View Post
    It occurs to me, the IOD needs two things: a second one of those "No Right Turn" light-up signs, but this one positioned on the other side of Lee Highway over the rightmost lane of Lynn Street facing north, i.e., in the field of view of the right-on-red drivers; and yellow strobes around both signs that flash when the signs are lit.
    I have thought the intersection needs a regular sign that is "NO TURN ON RED" with the sub-sign of "During Leading Pedestrian Interval" or whatever the appropriate phrase is. It gets people to realize that there may be a time to not turn so that the sign that lights up isn't a complete surprise. (Okay, I would prefer the lack of the caveat sign, but that is probably changing some other rules)

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    Having a standard red arrow would help as well. The illuminated sign is unclear in some conditions (evenings in particular) where you can that something is prohibited, but you are not exactly sure what.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrP View Post
    I have thought the intersection needs a regular sign that is "NO TURN ON RED" with the sub-sign of "During Leading Pedestrian Interval" or whatever the appropriate phrase is. It gets people to realize that there may be a time to not turn so that the sign that lights up isn't a complete surprise. (Okay, I would prefer the lack of the caveat sign, but that is probably changing some other rules)
    This might work, but I still think we need something in the field of view of the drivers that only look for oncoming traffic from their left before making a right on red. That was clearly the problem I saw yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrP View Post
    I have thought the intersection needs a regular sign that is "NO TURN ON RED" with the sub-sign of "During Leading Pedestrian Interval" or whatever the appropriate phrase is. It gets people to realize that there may be a time to not turn so that the sign that lights up isn't a complete surprise. (Okay, I would prefer the lack of the caveat sign, but that is probably changing some other rules)
    My idea: add a sign farther back on the off-ramp stating "Fine for Disobeying No Turn on Red Signal: $XXX"

    People sometimes care more about money than the safety of others, so why not use that to our advantage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobco85 View Post
    My idea: add a sign farther back on the off-ramp stating "Fine for Disobeying No Turn on Red Signal: $XXX"

    People sometimes care more about money than the safety of others, so why not use that to our advantage?
    Add the same sign for the Intersection of Ft. Meyer and Lee. I was almost dead there once.

    Seriously, for any riders new to the trail, be very careful approaching Ft. Meyer when you're going downhill at speed and have the right-of-way. People will ignore that no turn on red, and the consequences are yucky to think about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrP View Post
    I have thought the intersection needs a regular sign that is "NO TURN ON RED" with the sub-sign of "During Leading Pedestrian Interval" or whatever the appropriate phrase is. It gets people to realize that there may be a time to not turn so that the sign that lights up isn't a complete surprise. (Okay, I would prefer the lack of the caveat sign, but that is probably changing some other rules)
    Yes, a big part of the problem is that drivers pull up, start looking to their left for a gap in Lynn traffic, and never bother to look right again after they see those cars stopping. This is why I think it should be "NO TURN ON RED" all the time. The present situation is confusing to drivers, because it's something they don't encounter anywhere else. Is there another intersection anywhere that goes directly from a "turn on red is permitted" phase immediately to a "no turn on red" phase? And without even using a red arrow? I can't think of one.

    That said, putting this information on the sign itself is a decent idea. It certainly won't stop all the LPI violations, but maybe it will help some drivers realize how this intersection is supposed to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskerdont View Post
    Add the same sign for the Intersection of Ft. Meyer and Lee. I was almost dead there once.
    This one's also not great when Ft Myer has the green. From Key Bridge, I usually ride Ft Myer to Nash to Wilson. After crossing the Potomac on the sidewalk, I have to transition back into the roadway, which sometimes doesn't happen until that intersection. It can be an awkward dance, especially when drivers aren't signaling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GovernorSilver View Post
    Sorry to hear that. I might have taken advantage of my AAA membership in that situation, since it includes byke roadside assistance - depending of course on distance to go.
    PSA: AAA's token bike aid doesn't make up for their extensive anti-bike & pedestrian lobbying. Anyone who needs roadside assistance, please get it from someone other than AAA so they can't continue to use their membership fees to fund their lobbying.

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