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Thread: Look who my wife spotted in Harrisonburg Va this weekend.

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    I think I had to walk to a flat clearing on the non drop off side of the climb to fix it. It took everything I had not to toss the bike over there. It was highly possible you passed me heading in the opposite direction. Did you happen to see the poor guy who snapped his rear derailuer clean off the back of what looked like a new Ridley?

    Tim- I do something similar in the Belle Haven area of Alexandria I was hoping you guys were hiding a good 10+% grade over a mile climb. I'm thinking I will have to jump on the Kill Bill ride this go round.

    I would have like to watch JB take to the dirt climb like a pro MTB rider would...as a recreational roadie that was well beyond my skill level. Totally bit off more than I should have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelsDC View Post
    I like that a lot. Any reason to do the WW is fine by me. That actually looks like a lot of fun. Thanks for sharing.

    Quote Originally Posted by vvill View Post
    I'm curious to know how many people attempted and completed the full loop. ~230 registered, ~180 finishers. Some registrants didn't start obviously (e.g. Joe D), and some switched to the medio route.
    I wish I had at a few points there.

    Quote Originally Posted by vvill View Post
    I only slapped on a front 25 a couple days before the event - I was toying with the idea of using my standard 23 (which I've never flatted on) - very glad I did that, although the raised profile of the particular tire (Panaracer RibMo) made me feel a bit less confident on the descents. I'd also put on a new 11-28 cassette and new chain a couple months earlier in preparation, and a new Gatorskin on the back a few weeks ago. I could've probably used a lock-out front shock though too
    I was going back and forth between my beloved 4000s in 23s and my older set of Ultra races in 25. If I were to do that again I would seriously hunt down a set of 25c CX tires or go with the closest thing Continental makes. I saw several people struggling with Gatorskins, but Conti only makes CX tires as small as 32c so I might have to come up with a solution that involves customizing my roadie or winging it with some 25s.

    Quote Originally Posted by vvill View Post
    Agreed. And the dirt climbing is really different to anything I'm used to. On paved surfaces, if you get tired, you can mash a bit more or drop down to a lower gear and still go up, just slower. On dirt/gravel, you are constantly trying to make sure you have enough traction, and also avoid holes, sharp rocks, etc so there is no respite at all - you have to watch where you going much more closely, and you get much less momentum. If you stop it's harder to get on your bike and clip in again. I'm definitely more used to riding as a "rouleur" than a climber. My wrists and especially left elbow (never quite been the same since my crash last year) were as sore as my legs after the event. My legs actually weren't all that bad.
    My favorite part of that was standing up to give your legs a break...a mistake I made twice.
    My legs are a little sore still but I think that may have had more to do with wine touring for several hours in the car the following day.

    Quote Originally Posted by vvill View Post
    I think I experienced my first true "suffering" experience on a bike on the last miles of that climb up Reddish. Looking down at your mileage progress is always a mistake when you're going 5mph! 68.1... 68.1... 68.1... 68.2...
    That sums it up perfectly.

    Quote Originally Posted by vvill View Post
    I've thought about that Mountains of Misery double too (I think I mentioned it to Megabeth who replied something like how fun sounding a name for a ride it was - of course this was only a few hours after the Fondo.) I think after the Alpine Loop, Mountains of Misery would actually be easier even though it's longer and more feet in climbing - assuming it's paved.
    I got an email from Mrs. Bishop this morning about a jersey question. I straightened it out, thanked her for all her hard work and said I would sign up now if there were to be a little less gravel. I would keep the first climb in gravel to skip Reddish, that is just overkill. IMO there is a difference between being difficult and being a poorly equipped.

    I feel like the moutain climb at the end of MoM would be easier...not easy by any stretch just easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveTheTech View Post
    Did you happen to see the poor guy who snapped his rear derailuer clean off the back of what looked like a new Ridley?
    Okay - it was him I saw then and not you. Now I remember the walker did have a broken derailleur. Poor guy, that was a sweet Ridley.

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    Nice thread. Inspiring. You guys are hardcore. I don't know if I can ride a course as long and steep as that one but I'd like to try. Maybe next year. I like the gravel/dirt. Definitely makes the ride more appealing to me. I'm not saying those sections wouldn't be hard for me, but I'd like to try. I have very low gearing and 700x28 tires. Getting up the hills wouldn't be a problem, but making the time cuts probably would be tough...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod Smith View Post
    Nice thread. Inspiring. You guys are hardcore. I don't know if I can ride a course as long and steep as that one but I'd like to try. Maybe next year. I like the gravel/dirt. Definitely makes the ride more appealing to me. I'm not saying those sections wouldn't be hard for me, but I'd like to try. I have very low gearing and 700x28 tires. Getting up the hills wouldn't be a problem, but making the time cuts probably would be tough...
    As the days pass by and my legs get back to normal I am thinking I just might be out there again next year. Although at the time I said I would never attempt that gravel mess again today I am thinking I might be.

    Are you running 28cs on a road bike? If so what?

    There were many people that were out there that I spoke with riding 32s and even as high as 36s with mtb derailuers. I was thinking it would be considered soft to do that but it is smart out there anything goes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveTheTech View Post
    My favorite part of that was standing up to give your legs a break...a mistake I made twice.
    Yeah you definitely need to used to in-the-saddle climbing to get through those dirt stages.

    I do think a bike with wider tire clearances would've been useful too. I made it okay on 25s but I was afraid of getting a puncture and riding conservatively on the dirt sections a lot of the time. A CX bike with 32-35s would've been nice I imagine.

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    FYI...I can attest, the medio route (77 miles) is no joke. But, well worth it if you think you're not up to the full route.

    The medio route is all paved. In fact, climbing Reddish Knob was like butter - a slow, slow, slow, steep butter incline. I had many conversations with little wooly worms running, and keeping pace, with me. But, I made it up the climbs without walking or stopping. Oh yeaaaah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vvill View Post
    Yeah you definitely need to used to in-the-saddle climbing to get through those dirt stages.
    That may be why y'all have sore backs. I definitely suggest mixing it up on long climbs like that just to give your muscles a break. When you're out of the saddle, roll your hips back over the saddle to keep the rear wheel weighted so the rear wheel holds traction. I used 4 different positions on the climbs and that really helped my back loosen up over the ride. Sitting with my hands on the hoods, sitting with my hands in the drops, standing with my hands on the hoods and standing with my hands in the drops. Each provides a different combination of the muscles that it uses... as well as different amounts of arms/shoulders/upper back that are drawn upon to move the bike forward.

    Moving around was the only way I survived that ride. I went into it with a very sore back and when I came out, my back was arguably the only part of me that wasn't dogged.

    There were enough miles of rolling, smooth pavement that I really wouldn't go any bigger than a 28mm tire for that ride. I did it on 35mm tires last year and that was too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SteveTheTech View Post
    As the days pass by and my legs get back to normal I am thinking I just might be out there again next year. Although at the time I said I would never attempt that gravel mess again today I am thinking I might be.

    Are you running 28cs on a road bike? If so what?

    There were many people that were out there that I spoke with riding 32s and even as high as 36s with mtb derailuers. I was thinking it would be considered soft to do that but it is smart out there anything goes.
    No road bike. Are hybrids allowed? I have smooth tires, Schwalbe Durano on my sporty hybrid, Conti Gatorskins on my work horse.

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    You can ride any bike you like. Saw a couple of guys on fatbikes, and a few MTBs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt View Post
    That may be why y'all have sore backs. I definitely suggest mixing it up on long climbs like that just to give your muscles a break. When you're out of the saddle, roll your hips back over the saddle to keep the rear wheel weighted so the rear wheel holds traction. I used 4 different positions on the climbs
    Yeah this is something I need more experience with - riding on dirt/unpaved sections for decent stretches of time. Although I didn't have a back issue myself, I did feel like I wished I had more variation in body position generally.

    Same goes for tire width. With more experience I'd probably be fine with the 25-28 range but as it was I felt a little thin.

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