New GW ParHighway Path Marked
Was crossing said death trap this morning and notice some surveyor markers marking the rough outline for the new path. The only downside is that it looks like the new path with run smack into not only the oncoming sidewalk bridge traffic but also the merging sidewalk traffic circle traffic. SHOULD BE FUN!
Is this at Memorial Circle? I didn't notice it this morning, I'll try and take a look when I go home and maybe take a picture.
Originally Posted by pfunkallstar
Yeah, small wooden stakes painted pink, they are positioned well, or about as well as they can be for the crossing, but the intersection is going to be a mess.
Maybe they're building a Dirty-only lane. It will have pink stripes.
Originally Posted by dbb
Should be a nice improvement over the current path. Cyclists will only have to cross one lane of traffic instead of the two lanes currently. It's still not ideal but at least we no longer have to worry about one lane of traffic stopping and then the other speeding through. The sight lines will be better as well. At the new location, it'll be a little easier to tell if a car is turning or heading straight toward the bridge. It's difficult to tell from the current crossing spot.
Took a look at the proposed layout this morning. I'm not taken with the routing. This is the part of the trail between the GWMP and Washington Blvd.
The routing that is staked out is shown in pink. An alternative is shown in green.
This discussion will be oriented as you are moving north (upstream). In the photo above, north is at the top.
This shows the alignment of the new trail and how it will connect to the existing trail. For cyclists, the turn seems pretty sharp. We saw how badly that worked with the trail connections at the MVT-14th St Bridge a while back. It would be easier to do it right from the outset. Either flare the connection or make the angle less sharp.
The trail goes around (on the river side) of a maple tree and then between some holly trees. The proposed crosswalk is at the right side of this photo.
The path is hidden by the holly tree in this photo, so trail users are hidden until they are about 30 feet from the proposed crosswalk. For a cyclist, that may mean they pop into view of the motorists just seconds before they get to the crosswalk. The trail seems to be a bit narrower as it goes around the tree. This photo is looking to the west.
This is looking at the proposed location from the existing crosswalk. The trail goes behind the holly tree that is just left of the stop sign. The Memorial Bridge is in the background.
Getting back to the Google Earth photo, my alternative green path will ease the new-old transition, keep trail users in sight, and save asphalt. The crosswalk would go about where the middle arrow is in the photo. It might make sense to have the crosswalk at a slight angle to the road, rather than a perpendicular crossing.
I'll send this to the Superintendent of the GWMP as well.
Last edited by dbb; 08-04-2012 at 11:41 AM.
I totally agree with you that the trail users should be visible to drivers long before the crossing and should not pop out suddenly from behind the holly tree. Thanks so much for your work on this. Please keep us posted on how we can support your efforts to have this change made.
Why do I think they'll just cut down the tree?
I think they will cut no trees down. That will place riders at risk of being unseen, the trail at risk of roots, and the users at risk of a spot where snow and ice don't melt.
I think the green alignment addresses all three of those issues and might save money.