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    Quote Originally Posted by zsionakides View Post
    Rode the northern part of the MVT for the first time since the shutdown has occurred. It wasn’t too bad busyness wise, but I literally saw significantly more people on the MVT than the GW Pkwy, and this was during rush hour. I don’t see any reason why the GW or at least half of it couldn’t be shut down to car traffic and made bike/ped only to open up more space for people to distance while getting exercise and fresh air.
    Is it actually illegal for bikes to ride on the GWMP? If not, and it's really this empty, we might as well go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bentbike33 View Post
    Is it actually illegal for bikes to ride on the GWMP?
    Yes bicycles are prohibited from the roadway, see section 4.30(a) on page 15 of https://www.nps.gov/gwmp/learn/manag...endium-508.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by bentbike33 View Post
    Is it actually illegal for bikes to ride on the GWMP? If not, and it's really this empty, we might as well go for it.
    Yes, they will ticket you. There are signs posted on the parkway (mostly in the southern section) banning bikes, and I know of at least one person who got a ticket. They list the prohibition on their website (https://www.nps.gov/gwmp/planyourvis...ernontrail.htm), so I assume they have some enforcement mechanism based on their past ticketing.

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    Despite the light traffic on the parkway, I wouldn't recommend riding it as cars are going fast and aren't going to expect to see bicycles.

    I do recommend that the Parkway or at least the northbound side of the parkway be shutdown to facilitate everyone who is out getting exercise and crowding the MVT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emm View Post
    Yes, they will ticket you. There are signs posted on the parkway (mostly in the southern section) banning bikes, and I know of at least one person who got a ticket. They list the prohibition on their website (https://www.nps.gov/gwmp/planyourvis...ernontrail.htm), so I assume they have some enforcement mechanism based on their past ticketing.
    Figures. They should just throw in the towel and rename the GWMP I-595.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey View Post
    Yes bicycles are prohibited from the roadway, see section 4.30(a) on page 15 of https://www.nps.gov/gwmp/learn/manag...endium-508.pdf
    The crappy definitions may give cover for some. Extracted from Page 2 (my emphasis added):

    Bicycle means every device propelled solely by human power upon which a person or persons may ride on land, having one, two, or more wheels, except a manual wheelchair.

    Motor Vehicle means every vehicle that is self-propelled and every vehicle that is propelled by electric power, but not operated on rails or upon water, except a snowmobile and a motorized wheelchair.

    Scooters and e-bikes - to the roadway!

    Caveat - this should not be taken as legal advice and if you try to school the Park Police, they will likely not be amused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewey View Post
    Yes bicycles are prohibited from the roadway, see section 4.30(a) on page 15 of https://www.nps.gov/gwmp/learn/manag...endium-508.pdf
    This is a change that occurred within memory. There used to be Sunday rides on the southern portion, because traffic was light and could easily move to the left lane to pass.

    Someone with a better memory than I may remember some sort of incident that occurred and prompted the NPS to ban bikes. I seem to remember maybe a crash, controversy over the incident and then, in what the bicycling community felt was an unwarranted response, the banning of bicycles.

    I remember thinking at the time that the ban on bikes could have been time-limited. I.e., they be allowed on weekends and holidays, say. But they didn't ask me.

    Who remembers this better than I?

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    Not from my memory, but from Google (in case this helps pinpoint the timeline or jog someone's memory): https://www.nps.gov/gwmp/learn/manag..._Compliant.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by LhasaCM View Post
    Not from my memory, but from Google (in case this helps pinpoint the timeline or jog someone's memory): https://www.nps.gov/gwmp/learn/manag..._Compliant.pdf

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    That is from 2011. Bikes were banned years before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    That is from 2011. Bikes were banned years before.
    That 2011 document says "since 2007." Was it significantly earlier than that?

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