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    Default Arlington County Moving Forward With Pedestrian Bridge Near Shirlington

    https://www.arlnow.com/2020/01/16/ar...r-shirlington/

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    This should make Robyn happy

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcannon100 View Post
    This should make Robyn happy
    Except it doesn't get rid of having to cross Shirlington road to get to/from the trail from what I read, so Reji will still have to look out for cement trucks...

    Per the article:
    The Four Mile Run plan also considered an underpass running beneath the bridge, negating the need for cyclists and other trail users to cross busy Shirlington Road, though that was not discussed at the Transportation Commission meeting. Arlington County is currently working on a $15.5 million renovation project for Jennie Dean Park, adjacent to the future bridge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rcannon100 View Post
    This should make Robyn happy
    Not necessarily. The dangerous part is crossing Shirlington Road and also 4MR Dr. There is no safe way to get across. Crossing 4MR Drive first is perilous because of the speeding right and left turns. Crossing Shirlington Rd at either location is equally bad. At 4MR Drive and Shirlington Rd the cars do not stop before their turns. If you do cross 4MR Dr. first, you can use the beg button to cross Shirlington Rd. But drivers ignore (or speed up at) the flashing yellow lights (why aren't they red?) triggered by the beg button, even if they are approaching a red light. It is a terrible set of intersections if you're not in a 4000 lb tank.

    According to the article, we will have a better bridge across Four Mile Run stream. But the bridge is not really the problem. Personally I'm fine on the narrow bridge, even if there are others using it at the same time. I can go super slow and we will all stay alive. It's crossing the road that's the real problem. That's where we can die. And that's where our kids will get a false sense of security when they press the button, not realizing that the drivers will accelerate rather than stop. It appears there's been no resolution... I hope I am misunderstanding...

    From ArlNow: "The Four Mile Run plan also considered an underpass running beneath the bridge, negating the need for cyclists and other trail users to cross busy Shirlington Road, though that was not discussed at the Transportation Commission meeting."

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    Quote Originally Posted by rcannon100 View Post
    This should make Robyn happy
    All new bike infra makes me happy. But in the interim, I'll remain on high alert so I can keep dodging those nasty cement trucks.

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    Shout out to the commenter who complained about cyclists riding into moving traffic without looking. I always ride into moving traffic without looking, what an astute observation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reji View Post
    All new bike infra makes me happy. But in the interim, I'll remain on high alert so I can keep dodging those nasty cement trucks.
    The cement truck issue is due to a poor design on that side of the intersection which doesn't make clear who has right of way. The fact that the cement factory has a signal light confuses drivers as it's not obvious they don't have right of way when it's green. Changing their current green light to a flashing red when 4MR has a green would properly signal that they only have typical right of way for a vehicle leaving a driveway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheels&wings View Post
    Not necessarily. The dangerous part is crossing Shirlington Road and also 4MR Dr. There is no safe way to get across. Crossing 4MR Drive first is perilous because of the speeding right and left turns. Crossing Shirlington Rd at either location is equally bad. At 4MR Drive and Shirlington Rd the cars do not stop before their turns. If you do cross 4MR Dr. first, you can use the beg button to cross Shirlington Rd. But drivers ignore (or speed up at) the flashing yellow lights (why aren't they red?) triggered by the beg button, even if they are approaching a red light. It is a terrible set of intersections if you're not in a 4000 lb tank.

    According to the article, we will have a better bridge across Four Mile Run stream. But the bridge is not really the problem. Personally I'm fine on the narrow bridge, even if there are others using it at the same time. I can go super slow and we will all stay alive. It's crossing the road that's the real problem. That's where we can die. And that's where our kids will get a false sense of security when they press the button, not realizing that the drivers will accelerate rather than stop. It appears there's been no resolution... I hope I am misunderstanding...

    From ArlNow: "The Four Mile Run plan also considered an underpass running beneath the bridge, negating the need for cyclists and other trail users to cross busy Shirlington Road, though that was not discussed at the Transportation Commission meeting."

    This. The new bridge will be helpful as ped volumes increase with the other changes to the area (which will still not be as dramatic as what I hoped for when I went to the first visioning session (a day I won't forget as it was the day my Kona Dew was stolen)) But its not really a big improvement over the current status quo - I proceed on this sidewalk as W&W says, or (esp going NB) avoid it by going 27th to Nelson to the bridge near the dog park (which sometimes has peds, but with more room than the sidewalk on Shirlington Road) OTOH 27th is going away I guess? (I also occasionally take the lane on Arlington Mill SB, and go vehicular throught the intersection, though some issues making the sharp turn from Shirlington Road onto the trail usually deter me from that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subby View Post
    Shout out to the commenter who complained about cyclists riding into moving traffic without looking. I always ride into moving traffic without looking, what an astute observation.
    Specific quote:

    "Pedestrians walk into moving traffic without looking, bikes too"

    So we have walking bicycles that don't look where they're going. I believe this surpasses "astute" and moves into "brilliant" territory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reji View Post
    I'll remain on high alert so I can keep dodging those nasty cement trucks.
    Striving to be pedantic, they are actually concrete trucks.

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