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    Four days in San Antonio for a conference this week has opened my eyes to how “bad” it could be... scooters simply everywhere! This morning walking 3 long blocks from hotel to convention, I counted 47 scooters in place. Dozens on the sidewalk in a single block, then repeated block after block. Some are Razor—which enable stand or sit, with far bigger diameter tires... the rest are traditional Bird or Lyft style. Riders zip down the sidewalks and down the streets equally. There are some sections of sidewalk here and there with painted areas as “Designated Parking” for scooters but they are only slightly more heavily used than abandon in place. Quite a sight...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristoB50 View Post
    Four days in San Antonio for a conference this week has opened my eyes to how “bad” it could be... scooters simply everywhere! This morning walking 3 long blocks from hotel to convention, I counted 47 scooters in place. Dozens on the sidewalk in a single block, then repeated block after block. Some are Razor—which enable stand or sit, with far bigger diameter tires... the rest are traditional Bird or Lyft style. Riders zip down the sidewalks and down the streets equally. There are some sections of sidewalk here and there with painted areas as “Designated Parking” for scooters but they are only slightly more heavily used than abandon in place. Quite a sight...
    I would ride the heck out of scooters in San Antonio. Too hot there.

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    I was on a string with the GWMP this week where another Friends group was asking about GWMP's position on scooters as well as those single wheeled skateboard type of things. Their position is still aligned with the official rules that motorized vehicles are prohibited on the trail unless they are an assistive device. As many have documented, there are a bunch of scooters around Gravelly Point and I saw at least four e-bikes on the commute home tonight as there's not an enforcement of this rule.

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    This morning about 8:00 there was one scooter on the 14th Street Bridge. This afternoon about 5:20 in the same vicinity there were 3 identical scooters. Mitosis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bentbike33 View Post
    This morning about 8:00 there was one scooter on the 14th Street Bridge. This afternoon about 5:20 in the same vicinity there were 3 identical scooters. Mitosis?
    I was on a CaBi when I passed the three and grumbled that they were far enough down the bridge that I would cause more of a mess by stopping to move them off the bridge. I'm not trying to sound paranoid, but they sure appeared to have been placed there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judd View Post
    I was on a string with the GWMP this week ... Their position is still aligned with the official rules that motorized vehicles are prohibited on the trail unless they are an assistive device.
    So they'll allow scooters on the highway instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judd View Post
    I was on a CaBi when I passed the three and grumbled that they were far enough down the bridge that I would cause more of a mess by stopping to move them off the bridge. I'm not trying to sound paranoid, but they sure appeared to have been placed there.
    I stopped the other afternoon to sling a scooter in the middle of the bridge over my shoulder and ride it down to the bottom on the VA side. It was def. one of the sketchiest feeling things I've done on a bike. Those things are awkward to carry - do not recommend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judd View Post
    I would ride the heck out of scooters in San Antonio. Too hot there.
    Heck yeah. If I’d stuck a day or two of vacation onto this trip after the conference, I could easily see myself firing up a scooter membership, or bike share membership to go explore downtown more...

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    In addition to offering higher rates for chargers that perform difficult retrievals, perhaps users could be assessed a fee for abandoning scooters in locations that excessively complicate retrieval?

    Do the scooters display how charged the batteries are? It seems like the app could offer a remaining distance estimate for each scooter and a map showing locations that qualify for the drop fee, so that the potential rider would know in advance whether they are likely to run out of juice somewhere that would cost them extra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoot View Post
    In addition to offering higher rates for chargers that perform difficult retrievals, perhaps users could be assessed a fee for abandoning scooters in locations that excessively complicate retrieval?

    Do the scooters display how charged the batteries are? It seems like the app could offer a remaining distance estimate for each scooter and a map showing locations that qualify for the drop fee, so that the potential rider would know in advance whether they are likely to run out of juice somewhere that would cost them extra.
    There are semi dockless systems that charge you extra if you place bike somewhere other than a dock, but they do so by whether you have actually locked up. This would have to be purely by GPS I guess. Which means while it would help with some things, it wouldn't help with some of the more common scooter parking complaints, which relate to exact positioning on a sidewalk. So I wonder if the companies are going to bother with such a tech that still leaves them with a bunch of other related issues. Depends what other options they have, I guess.

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