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    Quote Originally Posted by scoot View Post
    A PBL (well daylighted at the intersections) would make the Superman Hill climb much more comfortable (Walter Reed northbound from W&OD to Pollard).
    The width of a PBL would matter more here. A narrow PBL with the lost space from the gutter could be really hairy to ride up, maybe worse than the current conditions.

    Ideally they would get ride of the median islands or the parking lane, then you could easily fit in a cycletrack or a shared used path in conjunction with the existing sidewalk up to Pollard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    I'll start: N Quincy in front of W-L HS should have protected bike lanes

    Military Road north of Lee is far too wide -- narrow the road and provide good, continuous bike lanes (maybe protected - I'm actually not sure how many driveways we have there).
    Military Rd should definitely have PBLs even with the few driveways, and Lorcom Ln should put PBLs in strategically as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsionakides View Post
    The width of a PBL would matter more here. A narrow PBL with the lost space from the gutter could be really hairy to ride up, maybe worse than the current conditions. Ideally they would get ride of the median islands or the parking lane ...
    If space is an issue, a road diet with median removal is a nice solution. I have never seen any traffic congestion going up that hill. As long as thru-vehicles can get around those who are waiting to make left turns, there is no need for a second thru lane. We could add the second vehicle lane in the downhill direction near the bottom of the hill to maintain southbound capacity through the signal at 4MR.

    Quote Originally Posted by zsionakides View Post
    ... then you could easily fit in a cycletrack or a shared used path in conjunction with the existing sidewalk up to Pollard.
    I oppose converting this bike lane into any sort of two-way facility (e.g. a cycletrack or MUP). Adding high-speed downhill bicycles to the mix on that side of the road would be extremely dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by semperiden View Post
    Add a lane from South Glebe Rd from 4MR trail to S Walter Reed. Or at least from 24th Street to S Walter Reed.
    These would be great. But if I interpret the map correctly, the blue roads are not on the paving schedule but rather happen to serve as boundaries between maintenance zones. Glebe would be VDOT territory anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoot View Post
    These would be great. But if I interpret the map correctly, the blue roads are not on the paving schedule but rather happen to serve as boundaries between maintenance zones. Glebe would be VDOT territory anyway.
    Sigh. I believe you are right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoot View Post
    If space is an issue, a road diet with median removal is a nice solution. I have never seen any traffic congestion going up that hill. As long as thru-vehicles can get around those who are waiting to make left turns, there is no need for a second thru lane. We could add the second vehicle lane in the downhill direction near the bottom of the hill to maintain southbound capacity through the signal at 4MR.



    I oppose converting this bike lane into any sort of two-way facility (e.g. a cycletrack or MUP). Adding high-speed downhill bicycles to the mix on that side of the road would be extremely dangerous.
    I don’t think you could road diet that part of Walter Reed as rush hour traffic is pretty heavy all the way to Columbia Pike. Getting rid of the median allows for a wide enough PBL going uphill (say 6-8’ wide) and a narrower PBL going downhill.

    If you get rid of the parking on the northbound side and keep the median, then there’s an 11-12’ wide facility. A cycle track would be the only thing that makes sense, otherwise it will look like a gold plated bike lane if it goes one way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    My complete list of streets to consider:
    1. Little Falls
    2. McKinley/Ohio
    3. Patrick Henry
    4. Wilson (west of "N Arlington Mill Drive")
    5. N Park Drive
    6. Lorcom
    7. Military
    8. Quincy
    9. 7th St N
    10. N Highland St (south of Key Blvd)
    11. Carlin Springs
    12. 5th Road South (connecting into FFX)
    13. S Walter Reed, particularly up Superman Hill
    I would also consider from that map:

    Boundary channel from Long Bridge to the connector from the MVT
    Oak St in Rosslyn for PBLs to connect with Wilson and Key
    Randolph Rd in Shirlington - PBLs or a cycle track to replace the current bad bike lanes
    Campbell in Shirlington would be nice for a cycle track, but a row of parking would have to be taken.

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    the proposal to pave Boundary Channel under 395 is appreciated. You could get lost in the potholes in that dark tunnel. Hoping they clean the debris off the sidewalks as part of the project

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    Quote Originally Posted by zsionakides View Post
    Military Rd should definitely have PBLs even with the few driveways, and Lorcom Ln should put PBLs in strategically as well.
    Lorcom's speed limit is a joke, especially heading east (down the hill) after Military. It's very similar to Gallows where the speed limit is completely ignored and cars frequently encroach into the bike lanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scoot View Post
    Not sure why this street has a 30MPH speed limit, but it should be redesigned somehow to support 25 instead.
    Not a bad idea, though it seems okay-ish at 30 to me. Maybe that's because I remember biking on it when it was four lanes. Felt like biking on a highway.

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