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Thread: Memorial Bridge lane closures will be "permanent" through 2021

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    I took the bridge this morning. Coming from Arlington cemetery, I stayed on the North sidewalk to bike across the open, northern pathway. It was a little out of the way ending up on the north side of Lincoln monument and crossing the crosswalks at 23rd Street to parallel the reflecting pool, but not awful. We’ll see how the evening commute fares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeprosyStudyGroup View Post
    If you're headed to the MVT that's one illegal and highly dangerous crossing ... Gooooooood luck having positive outcomes there folks.
    I'll just get this out of the way now:
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    Traffic snarled when cyclist struck on GW Parkway

    A cyclist was struck and badly injured on the GW Parkway this morning at 7:45am. Traffic was tied up for 2 1/2 hours and backed up almost to Old Town Alexandria while officials cleared the scene and investigated. The driver, who stayed on the scene, said, "He came out of nowhere. I was sipping my coffee when suddenly he was where I'd never seen anyone cross before." The cyclist appeared to be taking a non-authorized shortcut to avoid construction detours on the Memorial Bridge. The driver was not cited.
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    Now taking the over/under on when this article first officially appears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarahBee View Post
    I took the bridge this morning. Coming from Arlington cemetery, I stayed on the North sidewalk to bike across the open, northern pathway. It was a little out of the way ending up on the north side of Lincoln monument and crossing the crosswalks at 23rd Street to parallel the reflecting pool, but not awful. We’ll see how the evening commute fares.
    Memorial Bridge is garbage in the evening commute. North sidewalk was packed. Drivers speeding off the bridge to get on the parkway have no visibility of pedestrians or cyclists coming off the bridge from the North crosswalk. Flags at the intersection are ineffective. I waited for at least 10 cars before anyone stopped and only after I yelled and angrily shook my fist. Wishing there was a “non-elite” button.

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    It appears that some regular Memorial Bridge bicycle traffic may be self-diverting onto the sidewalk along Roosevelt Bridge.

    Roosevelt Bridge is too narrow along most of its span and is flat-out not meant to accommodate heavy bicycle traffic. Bike-on-bike accidents waiting to happen. It has "just enough" space for two bicycles abreast, if neither one makes the slightest error. In fact, any time two bicycles pass each other going opposite directions on Roosevelt Bridge, at anything above walking speed, I'd say it meets the technical definition of "near collision;" and with cars racing by just to the other side of the low-railing...

    Besdies the narrowness problem, Roosevelt Bridge is not an adequate work-around for most Arlington-DC trips because of its indirectness: It lets you off on the DC side at the Kennedy Center, out of the way for most people's destinations and not in an particularly bicycle friendly area, and on the Virginia side onto the limited-access Mount Vernon Trail, totally unlit at night and potholed, making it dangerous at low-light times on multiple levels and a small commute time sink.

    The best alternative to/from North Arlington was formerly Memorial Bridge, now looking unattractive thru circa 2021. That leaves Key Bridge. I use Key Bridge, but I believe it to be the most dangerous crossing of all (more than Roosevelt) if one goes to/from downtown via M Street, as most seem to. M Street is probably the most bicycle unfriendly street I regularly use. Add to this that Key Bridge will presumably have more car traffic through 2021 due to the Memorial Bridge project.

    Disappointing, but it seems to mean that DC-to-Virginia bicycle movement is to be at its most difficult in years. Or is there a solution I am overlooking? 14th Street Bridge will be fine again for commutes or other runs to/from South Arlington and Alexandria, once its own construction project is done soon. That leaves Chain Bridge and Wilson Bridge, both of which are, I presume for most reading this, between "way out of the way" and "way, way out of the way."

    North ArlingtSolution: A nice-and-wide, pedestrian- and bicycle-only bridge from Rosslyn to Georgetown Waterfront. Stay off M Street, stay off Key Bridge, no need for use of Roosevelt Bridge, less pressure on MVT to hit the other bridges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brendan von Buckingham View Post
    Inbound commute this morning, I took one of the vehicle lanes across. Speed limit is 20 MPH and traffic was heavy so I moved right along on pace with the cars who weren't coming close to the speed limit anyway. No problems.
    I dunno. Bridge traffic was bumper-to-bumper this morning, and there is no bailout eastbound. Just temporary jersey barriers in the right lane and oncoming traffic in the reversible middle lane. Plus the rear-ender that I saw in the outbound lane this morning confirmed that I'll stick to the sidewalk despite the foot traffic, construction barriers, etc. I'd rather put up with that inconvenience than end up sandwiched between two cars. The sidewalk was faster than the vehicle lanes anyhow.

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    Tried the bridge coming from custis and MVT this morning. Horrible- so many crossings of the parkway. Serious driver road rage refusing to stop at crosswalks for pedestrians, wheelchairs, and strollers. Witnessed a road worker almost get mowed down replacing Lane cones. Should have taken TR bridge and cut my way through the city. If it’s bad now, I hate to think what it will be like is the summer with all the buses and tourists.

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    I was on 110 beside the pentagon this morning and every single inbound lane was bumper to bumper from memorial bridge to the spaghetti junction at 395, possibly beyond. Those poor people won't have a good time bailing to become bike commuters because they've made it equally impenetrable for us, my smugness is deflated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yule View Post
    It appears that some regular Memorial Bridge bicycle traffic may be self-diverting onto the sidewalk along Roosevelt Bridge.

    Roosevelt Bridge is too narrow along most of its span and is flat-out not meant to accommodate heavy bicycle traffic. Bike-on-bike accidents waiting to happen. It has "just enough" space for two bicycles abreast, if neither one makes the slightest error. In fact, any time two bicycles pass each other going opposite directions on Roosevelt Bridge, at anything above walking speed, I'd say it meets the technical definition of "near collision;" and with cars racing by just to the other side of the low-railing...

    Besdies the narrowness problem, Roosevelt Bridge is not an adequate work-around for most Arlington-DC trips because of its indirectness: It lets you off on the DC side at the Kennedy Center, out of the way for most people's destinations and not in an particularly bicycle friendly area, and on the Virginia side onto the limited-access Mount Vernon Trail, totally unlit at night and potholed, making it dangerous at low-light times on multiple levels and a small commute time sink.

    The best alternative to/from North Arlington was formerly Memorial Bridge, now looking unattractive thru circa 2021. That leaves Key Bridge. I use Key Bridge, but I believe it to be the most dangerous crossing of all (more than Roosevelt) if one goes to/from downtown via M Street, as most seem to. M Street is probably the most bicycle unfriendly street I regularly use. Add to this that Key Bridge will presumably have more car traffic through 2021 due to the Memorial Bridge project.

    Disappointing, but it seems to mean that DC-to-Virginia bicycle movement is to be at its most difficult in years. Or is there a solution I am overlooking? 14th Street Bridge will be fine again for commutes or other runs to/from South Arlington and Alexandria, once its own construction project is done soon. That leaves Chain Bridge and Wilson Bridge, both of which are, I presume for most reading this, between "way out of the way" and "way, way out of the way."

    North ArlingtSolution: A nice-and-wide, pedestrian- and bicycle-only bridge from Rosslyn to Georgetown Waterfront. Stay off M Street, stay off Key Bridge, no need for use of Roosevelt Bridge, less pressure on MVT to hit the other bridges.
    A perfectly apt description of the situation, except re Roosevelt Bridge you left out Trollheim. Anyone not used to this route this fall could be in for an unpleasant surprise involving wet leaves and slimy wood.

    Slow down, Roosevelt Bridge is for regular ridin', not fancy ridin'.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1Ey01yDYJw

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    Quote Originally Posted by huskerdont View Post
    A perfectly apt description of the situation, except re Roosevelt Bridge you left out Trollheim. Anyone not used to this route this fall could be in for an unpleasant surprise involving wet leaves and slimy wood.
    Not to mention riders coming from the south at the T-intersection who don't bother to look left.

    It's too bad the equivalent sidepath on the downstream side of TR Bridge ends on the Virginia side in the middle of a field surrounded by high-speed ramps and roadways.

    Also, 14th Street Bridge is still there for people who can carry their bikes up and down stairs, but that issue is supposed to last only until early December. Even if you would go north on the MVT, if you are coming from south of the Mall (or even a bit north of the Mall) 14th Street Bridge might be worth the extra distance rather than fighting traffic through Northwest to get to TR or Key.

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    I think Yule's description is a bit unfair. The MVT is the access point for most of the trips from Arlington to DC, and while it could be better, it's not apocalyptic. Except for the Trollheim, which is worth a mention. The TR Bridge is way too narrow and the barriers are a joke, but Foggy Bottom (where it lets out on the DC side) is a great place to bike.

    I think it's worth a discussion at ABAC: because of work by NPS, it's incredibly hard to bike from Arlington to DC right now. What is Arlington doing about it.

    Anyone want to write a draft letter?

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