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Thread: Apparent hit and run at 12th & Constitution

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tania View Post
    About lost my shit just now on a coworker (who bikes to work!) when he said "well, it's partially the cyclist's fault. I mean, he was in the crosswalk!" Dude! The driver ran a red light! "Oh, well, I didn't know that. Still, you shouldn't expect cars to see you when you're in the crosswalk."

    Not kidding.
    Lose it! So this person never crosses a street? And what should all those pedestrians use to cross the street if not the crosswalk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chuxtr View Post
    And what should all those pedestrians use to cross the street if not the crosswalk?
    It's actually safer to cross midblock, but inconvenient for motorists.

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    Regardless of where the cyclist was, it was 100% the driver's fault. But your coworker made a clumsy and insensitive though valid geometric observation.

    A cyclist taking a line on the sidewalk and using the crosswalk--if there are cars already stopped for the red light--likely has an obstructed line of sight and no reaction time to avoid a red light runner in another traffic lane. A cyclist taking a lane in the roadway is 10 to 15 feet farther away from the obstructed line of sight, has a larger cone of vision and more time to be seen or react to a car running a red light. Still no guarantee that it avoids a collision, but improves the odds slightly with an extra split second.

    It's the same geometric line-of-sight problem with the ROW crosswalk on GWMP by Memorial Bridge where there are two lanes of traffic and the first lane yields to the cyclist but the second lane doesn't see the cyclist because the stopped car blocks the line of sight and so does not yield.
    Last edited by Brendan von Buckingham; 10-01-2018 at 10:59 AM.

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    Memorial Ride information has been posted on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2256777814395578/

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    Default Memorial ride today - Th 4 Oct 2018

    Quote Originally Posted by MrTinDC View Post
    Memorial Ride information has been posted on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/2256777814395578/
    I'm bumping this up for those who would like to join today's memorial ride for Arlington resident Tom Hollowell, who was killed last month by a hit-and-run driver on Constitution Ave (driver plowed through the red light).

    Memorial ride is today (Oct. 4) at 5:15 pm. starting at Farragut Square.

    https://www.facebook.com/events/2256777814395578/

    See you there. Be safe. w&w

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheels&wings View Post
    See you there. Be safe. w&w
    Someone caught a nice pic of you signing the banner for Mayor Bowser.

    https://twitter.com/andrewjh/status/1047961595429548032

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbehrend View Post
    grateful they've made an arrest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbehrend View Post
    Book 'im, Danno!

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    *This* quote from the article- "Seven pedestrians, including cyclists, scooter riders, and those walking, have been killed in D.C. by drivers since June 23. A woman struck by the driver of a truck by McPherson Square on Friday morning is currently in critical condition."

    "Vision Zero" is, at this moment, wishful thinking and a joke...at best.

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