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    I like the concept of there being another electric transportation option that may reduce car trips out there. I got to try a scooter a few weeks ago when there were no bikes to be found where I was, and it was fun, if a little frustrating since the speed was clearly throttled down. That's probably for the best.

    However, they are heavy and I whacked my ankle pretty good when I was trying to swing it off a curb.

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    The Virginia Bicycling Federation reported e-scooters were discussed yesterday in the Virginia General Assembly, House Transportation Committee. HB2752 "with lobbyists representing both Bird & Lime speaking in favor and law enforcement and other officials from Arlington, Alexandria, & Charlottesvile asking for the bill to be tabled until their in-progress Pilot Projects are completed and digested. Despite those requests, the bill was reported on to the full Trans Comm by a 7-3 vote, and the prevailing discussion seemed to be that the scooters would be permitted only on bike lanes, trails and sidewalks, and that all jurisdictions would have the authority to pass ordinances banning them from their sidewalks , if they chose to do so, which must have been the part that the Bird rep was unhappy with.

    When we had a chance to look the language over after the meeting, it appears that the scooters will also be permitted on the highway, but not capable of moving at more than 20 mph. There seem to be enough unresolved questions here, and it was obvious that the Bird representative did not get what he wanted, so these questions will be discussed and clarified at the next steps in the process, and we will be anxious to see that they don’t result in any restrictions that spill over to the bicyclists."(*)

    (*) my comment...or to e-bikes which are currently permitted to ride on sidewalks in Virginia.

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    Was the January 17 text amended?

    The January 17 text only allowed banning scooters on sidewalks the way current law allows banning bikes - when the jurisdiction "conspicuously" posts signage. At least in Alexandria, City staff seem very reluctant to do that.

    The rules about operating on roads ("highways") are interesting - no scooters on the road where the speed limit is > 25, and even on roads <= 25, the scooters must be ridden on the sidewalk if there's no bike lane, unless scooters are banned from the sidewalk. I imagine this won't go over well with either scooter operators or pedestrians.

    Also noteworthy: scooters would be required to have rear reflectors but, unlike bikes, not tail lights, even though the reflectors would be so low to the ground that I question their effectiveness (and the likelihood that they'd stay clean enough to be effective), and even though rental scooters have power supplies so they would only need to add relatively cheap LEDs to get active rear lighting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterw_diy View Post
    The rules about operating on roads ("highways") are interesting - no scooters on the road where the speed limit is > 25, and even on roads <= 25, the scooters must be ridden on the sidewalk if there's no bike lane, unless scooters are banned from the sidewalk. I imagine this won't go over well with either scooter operators or pedestrians.

    Also noteworthy: scooters would be required to have rear reflectors but, unlike bikes, not tail lights, even though the reflectors would be so low to the ground that I question their effectiveness (and the likelihood that they'd stay clean enough to be effective), and even though rental scooters have power supplies so they would only need to add relatively cheap LEDs to get active rear lighting.
    I think not having lights is pretty consistent with not being allowed on the road--bikes & pedestrians don't need reflectors or lights on sidewalks, either.

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    ArlNow is reporting that Jump and Spin are looking to expand operations to Arlington County, Spin for scooters and Jump for scooters and dockless ebikeshare. The article mentions three companies Bird, Lime, and Lyft already operate scooters in Arlington. Source: https://www.arlnow.com/2019/02/06/tw...-in-arlington/
    Last edited by Dewey; 02-07-2019 at 08:29 AM.

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    Consumer Reports publishes national crash data on scooter injuries for the period fall 2017-July 2018
    https://www.consumerreports.org/prod...or-first-time/

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