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    If you were interested in/affected by the restriping of Washington Blvd in Arlington, you may wish to hop onto Nextdoor.com and weigh in on the thread “New Traffic Pattern on Washington Blvd Claims Another Victim.”
    Got some folks arguing in favor of going back to the way things were.

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    Victim? Did some poor driver get run over by a bicyclist?

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    A parked car got hit for the third time, but the OP laid the blame on the bike lanes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEighth View Post
    A parked car got hit for the third time, but the OP laid the blame on the bike lanes.
    Another victory in the #WarOnCars

    I’m rarely in that area. Are the bike lanes car buffered there or are they door zone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEighth View Post
    A parked car got hit for the third time, but the OP laid the blame on the bike lanes.
    They shouldn't park in the bike lane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzE-IMaegzQ

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    I've been going a bit out of the way and using those lanes once in a while, and continuing on Wash Blvd where the lanes peter out. Basically just to use them and take the lane where they disappear. I think it's important that they be used, and so far I haven't seen too many other folks. They're a bit shoehorned in but do help on a couple of the uphills; most drivers have been pretty patient where they end and I take the lane. But I can't see how the bike lanes would be at fault. If anything, they might reduce the effects of an accident if they caused drivers to go a bit slower. But there will always be commenters on places like there and ArlNow who blame bicycle lanes or traffic calming when the real fault is bad driving. I wouldn't leave my car parked on a road like that overnight on a bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneEighth View Post
    If you were interested in/affected by the restriping of Washington Blvd in Arlington, you may wish to hop onto Nextdoor.com and weigh in on the thread “New Traffic Pattern on Washington Blvd Claims Another Victim.”
    Got some folks arguing in favor of going back to the way things were.
    I've lived on Washington Blvd since 1995, and travelled this section of the road since I was strapped in a car seat with the parents... and I have to say that this new stripping is bad. It is confusing, narrowing in a poor way, and downright dangerous in others. I still would not ride my bike through this section. I truly believe that they made the area more dangerous. I don't blame this on cyclists or drivers, but on the civil engineers who designed it and those that installed it. I'll also take the highly unpopular (I'm sure) stand that maybe this stretch of road, as it exists now, is not well suited for all the activities its offering at this particular time. Blaming bad drivers isn't going to change the fact that there are bad and distracted drivers. What the exact answer is I can't say, but I felt safer as a driver in the pre-striped days than I do now, and my opinion on riding this stretch of road is unchanged- nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JorgeGortex View Post
    I've lived on Washington Blvd since 1995, and travelled this section of the road since I was strapped in a car seat with the parents... and I have to say that this new stripping is bad. It is confusing, narrowing in a poor way, and downright dangerous in others. I still would not ride my bike through this section. I truly believe that they made the area more dangerous. I don't blame this on cyclists or drivers, but on the civil engineers who designed it and those that installed it. I'll also take the highly unpopular (I'm sure) stand that maybe this stretch of road, as it exists now, is not well suited for all the activities its offering at this particular time. Blaming bad drivers isn't going to change the fact that there are bad and distracted drivers. What the exact answer is I can't say, but I felt safer as a driver in the pre-striped days than I do now, and my opinion on riding this stretch of road is unchanged- nope.
    Huh. I rode it a few times in the fall taking kids to soccer at Jamestown. I thought the striping (with the exception of the disappearing bike lane) was awesome, and definitely made it safer for biking. I've driven it maybe twice and didn't see a problem. Seems like an overall improvement to me.

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    Can't speak to the issues here in detail, but a road or lane diet is going to make driving more nerve wracking. That is how it works. When driving feels comfortable, people go faster and/or pay less attention.

    The part of King Street south of Janney's with the conventional bike lanes put in a few years ago, have gotten plenty of feedback as nerve wracking to drive on. Well the data show a reduction in collisions there. Despite a very very modest decline in speeds. My belief is that the narrow lanes are so nerve wracking drivers pay attention, and so are less likely to hit each other or anything else.

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    Sure you are not talking about Williamsburg? Jamestown isn't anywhere near Washington Blvd.

    I ride these every day, although not the far western end near Sycamore. There's not too much bike traffic on Washington due to it paralleling the Custis. I find that the bike lanes make things marginally worse, as cars are less likely to give you 3 feet if you are in "your" lane and cars are in "their" lane when there is no buffering between the two lanes. (This is similar to the bike lane on Washington between Longfellow and Harrison versus the lack of bike lane between George Mason and Glebe--I prefer the eastern section without the bike lane.) There is an odd double curve in the westbound bike lane between Ohio and Powhatan. It doesn't bother me since I ignore the paint when choosing my line. Similarly, I will ride in the buffer area between Nicholas and Ohio, since the bike lane is right up next to the gutter and I prefer to ride further from the curb.

    I'm comfortable riding in traffic. For those uncomfortable in traffic, I would still suggest side streets (or the Custis trail) rather than the bike lane.

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