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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelsDC View Post
    This is the cycletrack after a show at the Anthem.

    Just do this!


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    Oh my.

    This AM the PBL looked about as successful at being a PBL as ever. We actually had a regular little "paceline" going, with four bikes headed eastbound - including one guy on a drop bar road bike who passed me as I entered the PBL (!) . Another rider was heading WB on the PBL. The construction workers were actually scooting across the PBL, as if it were a PBL, rather than walking in it.

    Until.

    As we got to the east end, near Velocafe, there was some swerving and shouting. From as much as I can recollect, it was an oblivious pedestrian strolling across the PBL. The roadie was following the "paceline" leader (who was slow - or at any rate rode like me - I had seen him at LBJ grove (before I lost sight of Bob James and Wheels&Wings), and again on Maine, so we were doing about the same speed) perhaps too closely? I think the leader stopped appropriately, and Mr Roadie swerved into the left lane of the PBL to avoid hitting him, and had to stop pretty sharply to not hit the pedestrian.

    Thankfully no collision took place. First near miss I have seen on the PBL though. The kicker, aside from the involvement of a roadie in the PBL - the oblivious pedestrian was a cyclist, walking over to his parked bike. Good thing there was no collision, as the embarrassment on the part of a couple of people would have been very great, I would think.

    Maine Avenue - good for entertainment, and not just at the Anthem and Arena Stage.

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    lordofthemark, you mean something like this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by napes View Post
    lordofthemark, you mean something like this?
    The video doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by napes View Post
    lordofthemark, you mean something like this?
    Should have looked at this a while ago, when the memory was fresher. Were you there? Looks like we were in the same "paceline".


    Edit: Oh wait. The rider in the red jacket 1:21 on, who turned to talk to you, that was me. Yup. Hope I didn't do anything wrong there


    Update on Maine: The other day I decided to forego the PBL and take the lane again. On the one hand the pavement is smoother, so its a much more pleasant ride physically. And there are now two full lanes, no construction equipment in them, so taking the lane (esp if you are proceeding further down Maine) is easier in that sense too. On the other hand, the bumpy pavement and the construction had served as traffic calming, so motor vehicles are now going faster. For me - not that fast, and heading to the vehicular left at 7th - it was mostly a wash, versus earlier conditions. For someone riding just a tad faster than I do, and at least as confident, taking the lane is probably much better than it was before the road was repaved.

    Took the PBL again another day. Still quite a few peds, but the good news is they are showing a lot more lane discipline than they did when it first opened. Not as much aimless wandering around, more walking on one side of the line. IE more like behavior on a MUT than on an urban sidewalk in a dense place. Still not like an inroad PBL, or an Amsterdam PBL (from what I know of the latter).
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    And what pray tell is going thru the peds' minds when they are walking along the side of the PBL when there is a perfectly good sidewalk right there?! "Gee, I should be careful and walk along the side so I don't get hit by a bike." Face palm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KLizotte View Post
    And what pray tell is going thru the peds' minds when they are walking along the side of the PBL when there is a perfectly good sidewalk right there?! "Gee, I should be careful and walk along the side so I don't get hit by a bike." Face palm.
    Well its not quite perfectly good yet - there is still some work on the storefronts going on, which can get in the way of a ped. Also if you are walking up the sidewalk from southeast of 7th Street, and you walk straight, it puts you in the PBL. You would have to swerve left to walk on the sidewalk. Why do that when there are not that many bikes, and when the only thing telling you to do so is this cute little paper sign with bike and ped icons on it? (and then there are runners, who may prefer the surface on the PBL to that on the sidewalk) And I doubt that folks are consciously thinking "I don't want to get hit by a bike" its just that the flow and habits are starting to work that way. Which again, is a good thing, as right after it opened people were just wandering all over.

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    This may have been posted somewhere but if so I missed it due to all the freezing Saddles posts. I noticed today that the paper signs on the Maine Ave. side of the Wharf showing which is the bike lane and which is the sidewalk have been replaced by metal signs on metals poles which are much higher than the old ones..

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