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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoWheelsDC View Post
    The cycle track is basically open to the public at this point. Wasn't really crowded tonight, but I'm definitely sticking with my prediction that it will be a pain in the ass to ride for much of the day. Oh, and watch out for turning cars!
    Nice clip! Looking forward to riding in on it tomorrow morning!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthemark View Post
    Rode it this morning, east bound. There were quite a few pedestrians on it, though in fact riding (at a moderate pace) was not worse than plenty of our more popular trails, and much better than some sidewalks I occasionally find myself bailing to.

    Other than a "bikes follow ped signals" sign, there was no signage whatsoever indicating this is a bike lane. Nor is there a center stripe as two way PBLs usually have. Given that, its hard to blame the pedestrians for using it as an extra sidewalk, especially as there are not many riders (I saw none other than myself). The actual sidewalk did not appear THAT narrow, but I did not walk it.
    When I rode southeastward coming back from Haines Point about an hour ago, it was similar and the real sidewalk was blocked by a band waiting to play and other things.

    I still haven't seen the bikeometer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ursus View Post

    I still haven't seen the bikeometer.
    The bikeometer is sort of in front of the District Hardware. It's also oriented so that the display is facing the street instead of facing the path so you'll have to turn your head to the side to figure out what number you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judd View Post
    The bikeometer is sort of in front of the District Hardware. It's also oriented so that the display is facing the street instead of facing the path so you'll have to turn your head to the side to figure out what number you are.
    Thanks I saw it today. Since it is sideways one doesn't know if one is actually counted. Assuming I was, I was #37 at about 7 AM heading west and #62 returning about 10:30 AM. Certainly not many riders.

    As an off topic comment, it is great that for the first time in the 42 years that I lived in SW DC, there is now a hardware store which I can walk to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ursus View Post
    Thanks I saw it today. Since it is sideways one doesn't know if one is actually counted. Assuming I was, I was #37 at about 7 AM heading west and #62 returning about 10:30 AM. Certainly not many riders.

    As an off topic comment, it is great that for the first time in the 42 years that I lived in SW DC, there is now a hardware store which I can walk to.
    I wish it was oriented the other way. I did a test to see if it was counting me since thereís not a visible ground loop. I guess itís hiding underneath the surface. The surface itself is permeable which is kind of neat.

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    I rode the PBL west bound on the way home. Figured a Friday evening would be a particular challenge. Lots of pedestrians, if still not enough to render it unrideable for me. There was one cyclist going the other way on the PBL. But there was also a cyclist riding on the actual sidewalk (IE NOT the PBL) Which I think indicates a problem as big as that inherent in the infrastructure - there is nothing present indicating to anyone that there is supposed to be mode seperation between bikes and peds. Unless you are aficionado of Dutch style bike infra, or you have been combing this forum for references to the PBL, you would have no idea that there was a PBL there. Also does not help that one of the apt buildings has its leasing sign in the PBL. My suggested solution is that we maybe ask DDOT to put in a cycle track on Maine Avenue. That might get their attention, maybe?

    Also of course one other reason there is little bike traffic is that there is really nowhere to go at the west end of the PBL - the connection to fish market sidewalk is worse than ever.

    On a side note, if I cross Maine in the crosswalk on the west side of 7th, and then turn west on the PBL, the bike counter will not capture me, right? For now at least the entry to the woonerf is closed, so its either that, or use the crosswalk on the east side of 7th, which is hard to get to because of the construction east of 7th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthemark View Post
    I rode the PBL west bound on the way home. Figured a Friday evening would be a particular challenge. Lots of pedestrians, if still not enough to render it unrideable for me. There was one cyclist going the other way on the PBL. But there was also a cyclist riding on the actual sidewalk (IE NOT the PBL) Which I think indicates a problem as big as that inherent in the infrastructure - there is nothing present indicating to anyone that there is supposed to be mode seperation between bikes and peds. Unless you are aficionado of Dutch style bike infra, or you have been combing this forum for references to the PBL, you would have no idea that there was a PBL there. Also does not help that one of the apt buildings has its leasing sign in the PBL. My suggested solution is that we maybe ask DDOT to put in a cycle track on Maine Avenue. That might get their attention, maybe?

    Also of course one other reason there is little bike traffic is that there is really nowhere to go at the west end of the PBL - the connection to fish market sidewalk is worse than ever.

    On a side note, if I cross Maine in the crosswalk on the west side of 7th, and then turn west on the PBL, the bike counter will not capture me, right? For now at least the entry to the woonerf is closed, so its either that, or use the crosswalk on the east side of 7th, which is hard to get to because of the construction east of 7th.

    I suspect there will be more foot traffic when the offices, hotels, and apartments are all populated. They certainly have to identify the PBL for what it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ursus View Post
    I suspect there will be more foot traffic when the offices, hotels, and apartments are all populated. They certainly have to identify the PBL for what it is.
    My understanding from some @bikepedantic tweets is that "full markings" are coming for the PBL. No kermit, but I'd guess that includes a centerline & cyclist icons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris_s View Post
    My understanding from some @bikepedantic tweets is that "full markings" are coming for the PBL. No kermit, but I'd guess that includes a centerline & cyclist icons.
    Dirt's Bikenetic Coffee Ride is charging through as you see it this morning... The place just opened up, so it is reasonable to expect striping to be done this coming week. If it is not done by the time RAID Papillon-District Wharf rolls through next weekend, how loudly should I complain?

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