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    Quote Originally Posted by Mariner View Post
    Ya know, that may very well be true for the District. Negligence was one of those things I learned about years ago and I tend to overdo the protective reaction to it. I'd still worry about a STOP directive, compliant or not, and trying to overcome that in recovery.
    DC did end contributory negligence (I think it was two years ago). But a lawyer's gonna argue anything that he or she can and it just takes convincing 12 people that think a cyclist is 51% at fault for running a stop sign to award zero damages regardless of whether the stop sign is legally enforceable.

    I was on a civil jury once involving an auto crash where the fault was about 50/50 and everyone immediately thought it was 50/50 but we had to talk for an hour and a half because one of the jurors was struggling with a 50/50 fault assignment preventing awarding any damages.

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    Yeah, to be clear, in no way was I advocating just ignoring the signs while thinking you'll be fine in court. We've all seen and heard of citations being written to cyclists even when they clearly weren't at fault. Best to avoid any danger you can, since there is so much you can't.

    My experience on a civil accident trial was similar to Judd's; the judge gave clear instructions, and yet there were jurors who couldn't figure it out, and one who said, "I know he said to disregard that evidence, but I'm not going to." I'd prefer to stay out of court if at all possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JanaeBixby View Post
    Anyone notice the new "slow" and "stop" lettering accompanied by a white solid line (like that on the road where a car gets to a 4-way intersection) AT EVERY INTERSECTION along the bike route infront of the wharf?
    More and more I just get on Maine and ride on it the same way I did 6 years ago before they started this whole mess.

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    Here's a question that I hope has not yet been addressed ad nauseam:
    On the wharf side of Maine Ave there is a clearly marked lane for bikes and one for pedestrians.....Why is it that the bike lane is made of speed-robbing rubber and the pedestrian lane is made of plantar-fasciitis-inducing concrete? Wouldn't it make more sense for the bikes to have the concrete and the peds to have the rubber?

    Understand storefronts likely prefer concrete to shuttle their wares in and out, however, every morning I get cut off by guys pushing trolleys across both lanes from Maine Ave to the storefront, which is not only harder for them to do, it chews up the rubber of the bike lane as well......Just does not make sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJockey View Post
    Here's a question that I hope has not yet been addressed ad nauseam:
    On the wharf side of Maine Ave there is a clearly marked lane for bikes and one for pedestrians.....Why is it that the bike lane is made of speed-robbing rubber and the pedestrian lane is made of plantar-fasciitis-inducing concrete? Wouldn't it make more sense for the bikes to have the concrete and the peds to have the rubber?

    Understand storefronts likely prefer concrete to shuttle their wares in and out, however, every morning I get cut off by guys pushing trolleys across both lanes from Maine Ave to the storefront, which is not only harder for them to do, it chews up the rubber of the bike lane as well......Just does not make sense.
    It looks like rubber, but that is permeable asphalt. Iíve found the ride experience to be lumpy. The thermoplastic markings also didnít last very long.

    Thatís a good question about why it wasnít reversed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJockey View Post
    Here's a question that I hope has not yet been addressed ad nauseam:
    On the wharf side of Maine Ave there is a clearly marked lane for bikes and one for pedestrians.....Why is it that the bike lane is made of speed-robbing rubber and the pedestrian lane is made of plantar-fasciitis-inducing concrete? Wouldn't it make more sense for the bikes to have the concrete and the peds to have the rubber?

    Understand storefronts likely prefer concrete to shuttle their wares in and out, however, every morning I get cut off by guys pushing trolleys across both lanes from Maine Ave to the storefront, which is not only harder for them to do, it chews up the rubber of the bike lane as well......Just does not make sense.
    Maybe they wanted to slow cyclists down. OTOH, there are so many obstructions which slow down cyclists even more.

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    Default Oooooh, that's why

    You know how the parking lane and right hand lane is treated like an all-day loading zone for the new buildings at the Wharf? It's because they fill the off-street loading docks with employee parking. Based on observation today. Ass-hats.

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    Even if this becomes more rideable I don't think it will ever be suitable for fast riding.

    It WAS getting better, as the construction on storefronts was completed, so the real sidewalk was more useable to peds, and as the increase in dockless mobility thingies made it clearer that the bike lanes were places to expect something other than a pedestrian. Its my impression that the fading of the bike markings on the pavement has set this back.

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    District Doughnut is now open along Maine Ave. They open at 7, so if you need a coffee/doughnut break from fighting Maine Ave traffic and bike lanes, it's a pretty good option. They're open until 10PM so I may end up stopping there after Happy Hour tonight too...

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