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    Quote Originally Posted by LhasaCM View Post
    Good call. I was going to ask if you had any minimum length requirements...

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    I don't but Strava does (as I found out trying to create a segment for the part of Washington Blvd in Arlington between Nash and McKinley). Looks like T Street and 6th street will be out, as a result.

    Its a lot easier to create segment where there is a recent ride I know of, and don't have to scroll and scroll looking for ones to edit. I have done all the riding I need for the NoVa segments. I may not have time to ride the entire lenghts of the L and M street PBLs though (there are segments on them already, but not as long as I want) by NYE. If anyone can either ride them soon, or if they have rides already done and can post links to the rides here, I would appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthemark View Post
    I don't but Strava does (as I found out trying to create a segment for the part of Washington Blvd in Arlington between Nash and McKinley). Looks like T Street and 6th street will be out, as a result.

    Its a lot easier to create segment where there is a recent ride I know of, and don't have to scroll and scroll looking for ones to edit. I have done all the riding I need for the NoVa segments. I may not have time to ride the entire lenghts of the L and M street PBLs though (there are segments on them already, but not as long as I want) by NYE. If anyone can either ride them soon, or if they have rides already done and can post links to the rides here, I would appreciate it.
    https://www.strava.com/activities/1008224190 should have the full L Street cycletrack between 25th and 12th NW (it doesn't have the unprotected sharrowed part to 11th).

    https://www.strava.com/activities/834004471 has M Street between 15th and 28th NW (it looks like the only times I've gone from Thomas Circle down M Street I peeled off before getting to Georgetown).

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    For reasons that are not clear to me, I cannot create a segment from someone else's ride. (plus I forgot to mention that I still need to create segments on the Capitol Hill contraflow lanes. I intend to ride the segments tomorrow as part of my first FS ride, and will then create them. I will shortly be posting a list of the segments here for would be competitors to have before FS starts, including those segments that have not yet been created (IE the 4 segments in DC - all the NoVa segments HAVE been created). I will later post something with the actual exact segment names for the coders to use in determining the winner.

    My proposal is that the winner will be determined by the person who has the most rides on their least ridden segment (IE if they ride one segment 2X, and all others 5x, their score would = 2) in order to encourage exploring, not riding back and forth on a couple of segments. The winner will get either a copy of Goethe's Faust, or a copy of Le Carre's "Tinker, Taylor, Soldier, Spy". I would also like to be able to somehow honor everyone with a score of at least "one" - IE everyone who has ridden every segment at least once.

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    Here is the list (apologies for posting it late, in case anyone was trying to ride these segments last night or this morning)

    The location is followed by the name of the Strava segment.

    Arlington:
    *Washington bn Sycamore and McKinley*- WB. The Deed 7 (WB on Washington Blvd)

    *Wilson bn Manchester and Emerson - EB. N. Arlington to N. Illinois

    *Wilson bn Manchester and Emerson -WB. New Bike Lane on Wilson Blvd.

    N Quincy bn 13th and 17th - NB. BikeArlington Commuter Counter (New, downhill)

    N Quincy bn13th and 17th - SB. Library Sprint - if you're lucky

    S Eads bn Army Navy and Glebe*- NB. The Deed 8 (NB Eads)

    S Eads bn Army Navy and Glebe*- SB. The Deed 9 (NB Eads) (oops)

    S Hayes bn 15th and where it becomes 18th- NB. The Deed 10 (Hayes NB)

    S Hayes bn 15th and where it becomes 18th- SB. The Deed 11 (Hayes SB)

    S 18th bn where it was Hayes to Eads - EB The Deed 12(18th EB)

    S 18th bn where it was Hayes to Eads - WB The Deed 13(18th WB)

    Crystal Dr bn 18th and Airport Access*- NB The Deed 14(Crystal NB)

    Crystal Dr bn 18th and Airport Access*- SB The Deed 15(Crystal SB)

    Alexandria :
    King Street TCW to Janneys- NB The Deed

    King Street TCW to Janneys - SB The Deed 4 (King Street Buffered SB)

    King Street Janneys to Cedar- NB The Deed 2


    King Street Janneys to Cedar - SB The Deed 5 (SB Bolshevik Lane)

    Prince The Deed 6 Prince Street

    Cameron Columbus to Buchanon Cam'ron Dash

    Van Dorn - EB. The Deed 3

    Van Dorn King to Ft Ward Hillcrest King to Ft Ward Hillcrest

    Washington DC
    (the segments are not creatd yet, but I intend to get them done soon)

    L Street Lane 22nd to 12th NW

    M Street Lane 14th to 25th

    Contra Flow on G NE 2nd to 13th

    Contra Flow on I NE 13th to 5th
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    Well, sorry I couldn't make it to happy hour, thanks to W&W for organizing and to Accordioneur for announcing prizes. Congratulations to Komorebi for winning the prize, though even she did not ride all the segments listed. And thanks to Hans for last minute back and forth on coding.

    As Reji said this morning, we can consider this a pilot. Now that all the segments are created, and I have a spreadsheet with a complete list, we can get this started earlier next year, and I can focus more on encouragement. I may also remove some of the segments, as it seems to me there were too many (though if we get a great new controversial segment - I am looking at you, 6th Street NW - I would still add a new one)

    Komorebi, I will be taking the prize (a copy of the Honorable Schoolboy, by John Le Carre, which features the phrase the prize is named for) to the next few coffee clubs, so hope to see you there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthemark View Post
    Komorebi, I will be taking the prize (a copy of the Honorable Schoolboy, by John Le Carre, which features the phrase the prize is named for) to the next few coffee clubs, so hope to see you there!
    Thanks, lordofthemark! I didn't think I was in contention for this prize, because I knew I hadn't ridden all of the segments, so I was completely surprised when Accordioneur called my name last night. I'm going to make a point of going out and riding all of the segments that I missed.

    I should be at HDCC and WTFCC this week, so hopefully I can pick up the prize from you there. Thanks for continuing to fight the good fight with BPAC, even when that means missing out on happy hour!

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    Well, to relieve your sense of heat and humidity, time for a FS 2019 discussion.

    But this will not be as light hearted as many.

    I have been reflecting on this the last couple of weeks. The In The Begining was the Deed prize was created to encourage the usage of seg bike infra in the region - partly to encourage people to explore and check it out, but also to get more people using it in order to respond to complaints that "we built a bike lane and no one used it".

    A few weeks ago Jeffrey Long was killed riding in the M Street bike lane.

    Now I don't think the people (whom I admire) who are taking DDOT to task on the safety issues on M Street, and pushing for improvements, want to remove the bike lane, or discourage people from riding it. They (and I) continue to lobby for new seg infra. Nonetheless, I do not feel comfortable having this bike lane as part of a light hearted competition. And reflecting further, I do not feel comfortable encouraging people to ride in bike lanes I am not super familiar with, and do not know all the safety issues.

    My intention at this point is to do this side bet again, but this time to confine it to bike lanes in the City of Alexandria only. Those are lanes which, while not perfect, I personally ride fairly often and I know the safety concerns and on which I put my body where advocacy is. Also it seems to me that the "lets not build a new bike lane, that old one is never used" is a major NIMBY argument only, or mostly in Alexandria - certainly DC has some very heavily used PBLs (notably 15th Street) and I don't hear it much relative to Arlington (I never got good suggestions for any of the other jurisdictions). Even for Alexandria, I will likely drop the downhill side of the unbuffered King Street lane (SB from Janneys) though I may add the new lane on Pickett, but only after riding it a few more times to be sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthemark View Post
    Well, to relieve your sense of heat and humidity, time for a FS 2019 discussion.

    But this will not be as light hearted as many.

    I have been reflecting on this the last couple of weeks. The In The Begining was the Deed prize was created to encourage the usage of seg bike infra in the region - partly to encourage people to explore and check it out, but also to get more people using it in order to respond to complaints that "we built a bike lane and no one used it".

    A few weeks ago Jeffrey Long was killed riding in the M Street bike lane.

    Now I don't think the people (whom I admire) who are taking DDOT to task on the safety issues on M Street, and pushing for improvements, want to remove the bike lane, or discourage people from riding it. They (and I) continue to lobby for new seg infra. Nonetheless, I do not feel comfortable having this bike lane as part of a light hearted competition. And reflecting further, I do not feel comfortable encouraging people to ride in bike lanes I am not super familiar with, and do not know all the safety issues.

    My intention at this point is to do this side bet again, but this time to confine it to bike lanes in the City of Alexandria only. Those are lanes which, while not perfect, I personally ride fairly often and I know the safety concerns and on which I put my body where advocacy is. Also it seems to me that the "lets not build a new bike lane, that old one is never used" is a major NIMBY argument only, or mostly in Alexandria - certainly DC has some very heavily used PBLs (notably 15th Street) and I don't hear it much relative to Arlington (I never got good suggestions for any of the other jurisdictions). Even for Alexandria, I will likely drop the downhill side of the unbuffered King Street lane (SB from Janneys) though I may add the new lane on Pickett, but only after riding it a few more times to be sure.
    I think the bike lanes on Pickett should make your list, but I would also suggest you add Mill Race Lane to your list of bike lanes. It most certainly is a safe street for all riders. It connects to Eisenhower Avenue and is two blocks from the newly installed bike lanes on Jamieson.

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