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    I plagiarised a bunch of your ideas while adding a few of my own thoughts, and sent them to my state senator and rep and cc'ed to VDOT. Even included "ignominy" used correctly in a sentence.

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    So why does VDOT use 42 inch walls to protect cars from cars, but only grudgingly increase 24 inch walls to 36 inch walls to protect pedestrians from cars? I think the person above who suggested that this makes it easier to convert to another car lane is on the right track.

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    Even if the plan isn't to build a poorly designed bike trail so that it can be converted to a car travel lane when no one uses it, that's what may happen. Drivers will be sitting in gridlock and will complain that there is a completely unused lane right there that can solve all their congestion problems forever.

    But if they were building a trail that they thought would be permanent, surely they'd place it behind the sound wall.

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    I think maybe a better approach would be to begin the advocacy process for the naming of the trail. I am proposing that we name the trail "Aubrey Lane's Folly Trail brought to you by Express Mobility Partners" in honor of Virginia's Secretary of Transportation Aubrey Lane and the consortium of companies that are designing and building this project.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Judd View Post
    I think maybe a better approach would be to begin the advocacy process for the naming of the trail. I am proposing that we name the trail "Aubrey Lane's Folly Trail brought to you by Express Mobility Partners" in honor of Virginia's Secretary of Transportation Aubrey Lane and the consortium of companies that are designing and building this project.
    Change to: "The Aubrey Lane Memorial Gambling Casino Bike Lane for the Insane" and I think you're on to something...

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    Cut paste add a bit and sent emails.

    This has to be some of the most ill conceived work I have seen in a while. Same amount of land, one one side of the road an extra wall has to be built and all the access issues with it. On the other side of the wall a proven format that is safer quieter easier to build and maintain and has far better access.

    Road side would be a hellish ride in a traffic generated hot, gritty, polluted loud wind with no shade at all. The other side none of the above.

    There is less to build if the trail is not road side. The entire jersey wall and fence is unneeded and the wall is less complex with no longer needed access point penetrations. Use the savings when you make the path outside the wall on more access points to the path. Access is key to the use of as path as along with the to and from work folks many trips would be short hops.

    Seriously, who the fark came up with that hot mess? Not anyone that ever rode a bike down the side of a large busy road. Brought to you by PTHB People That Hate Bikes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vicegrip View Post
    Brought to you by PTHB People That Hate Bikes
    I prefer the more grammatically correct PWHB - People Who Hate Bikes
    Also easier to pronounce, but not as fun.

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    Copied and pasted to VDOT and my Virginia house and senate delegates.

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    Has anyone figured out the distances between the entrances to the trail? It seems like one would only be able to get on/off the trail at interchanges -- how far apart are those?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dasgeh View Post
    Has anyone figured out the distances between the entrances to the trail? It seems like one would only be able to get on/off the trail at interchanges -- how far apart are those?

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    Is that right? If highway interchanges are the only access points, this trail will be even worse than I thought. I'll have to look more thoroughly at the design. I do know that the interchanges are anywhere from one to five miles apart. The longest gap between exits is from 29-Centreville to Sudley Road, about five miles.

    Note too: the interchanges are all with arterials, and most of these arterials are themselves horribly hostile to bicycles and pedestrians. Trail connections to lower-volume streets that bridge over the highway without an interchange are desperately needed. Not to mention direct access into the neighborhoods and business districts that are near the trail.

    Honestly, the Custis/W&OD from about McCoy Park to EFC is a 90% perfect example of how one can design a trail along a freeway ROW that offers a pleasant experience for almost all types of non-motorized users and is accessible to the communities it serves. The flaws of Custis/W&OD that we often complain about don't begin to compare to the enormous problems with this asinine proposal.

    How did Arlington successfully connect this trail into all of the neighborhoods it passes through? Perhaps it was easier because the highway took out so many homes that a lot of streets were left "one-sided"?

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