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    Quote Originally Posted by consularrider View Post
    That other cyclist is just plain wrong. Each sidewalk on MT Vernon Ave over 4MR is less than half as wide as he sidepath on the 14th St bridge.
    Less than half? I really doubt that. Looking at aerial imagery, 14th St's sidewalk looks to be 8' and Mt Vernon Ave's looks to be 6-8'.

    Have you actually measured, or are you just guessing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterw_diy View Post
    Less than half? I really doubt that. Looking at aerial imagery, 14th St's sidewalk looks to be 8' and Mt Vernon Ave's looks to be 6-8'.

    Have you actually measured, or are you just guessing?
    Sorry, I don't have a 4000 mile tape measure. My post was from personal experience, not trying to judge from a google earth shot.

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    It seems like it's more of a perspective thing. Riding on the 14th Street bridge feels smaller and more confined because there's less room to maneuver unless you want to risk hitting the sides with your handlebars. Riding on the Mount Vernon Ave bridge feels less confined and wider because you can ride closer to the edge, but that also risks falling off into traffic (at least when the barrier isn't there).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobco85 View Post
    It seems like it's more of a perspective thing. Riding on the 14th Street bridge feels smaller and more confined because there's less room to maneuver unless you want to risk hitting the sides with your handlebars
    Also 14th St hazards are scarier (longer drop, more cars moving twice as fast), 14th is much longer so no way would you be able to take turns with an incoming wide load,14th probably sees 5-10x the amount of bike and pedestrian traffic, and 14th sees more confused tourists (and gruff pathletes).

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    Does anyone know if the barriers separating the sidewalk on the bridge over 4MRT from the general travel lanes on Mt Vernon Ave, are going to remain after the wetlands work is done and the detour is history? It strikes me that keeping the barriers would be more comfortable for the many pedestrians in the area, and it does not appear to have had a significant impact on motor vehicle traffic. And the bridge is in Arlington right? Though is support from Alexandria is needed for keeping the barriers, I would gladly bring it up with BPAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lordofthemark View Post
    Does anyone know if the barriers separating the sidewalk on the bridge over 4MRT from the general travel lanes on Mt Vernon Ave, are going to remain after the wetlands work is done and the detour is history?
    I don't think they are intended to stick around, but I mentioned it the Arlington folks already.

    You should definitely bring it up with the BPAC.

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    Why are all of the new Bike Arlington / Walk Arlington PAL signs telling cyclists to yield to pedestrians only in Spanish ("Ceda El Paso" etc.)?
    Last edited by peterw_diy; 11-20-2016 at 04:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterw_diy View Post
    Why are all of the new Bike Arlington / Walk Arlington PAL signs telling cyclists to yield to pedestrians only in Spanish ("Ceda El Paso" etc.)?
    Cause there are some bad hombre cyclists not yielding to pedestrians when they're not busy taking all of our jobs.

    Bike Arlington is simply trying to make the 4MRT great again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Judd View Post
    Cause there are some bad hombre cyclists not yielding to pedestrians when they're not busy taking all of our jobs.

    Bike Arlington is simply trying to make the 4MRT great again.
    Cyclists who fail to yield will be deported south of Four Mile Run, at Alexandria's expense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by peterw_diy View Post
    Why are all of the new Bike Arlington / Walk Arlington PAL signs telling cyclists to yield to pedestrians only in Spanish ("Ceda El Paso" etc.)?
    Got a photo?

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