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Brent
07-25-2011, 01:36 PM
I searched the forum, and didn't see much on the topic.

I've been riding with OnGuard locking skewers (http://www.onguardlock.com/?page_id=329) to secure my wheels and seat post for some time now. They have a keyed bolt that can't be opened without the key. It makes it easier to lock my bike up since I don't have to worry about the wheels.

Does anyone have any experience with these? Are they hard to defeat, or are they just a mild deterrent?

eminva
07-25-2011, 02:28 PM
I have had these for almost three years. As far as I know, no one has tried to tamper with them, although I am pretty careful about where I leave my bike. I have no difficulty with the key, but it is another thing to carry around and a bit slower than quick release if you are removing tires often.

Liz

Brock
07-25-2011, 06:41 PM
I once dropped my bike off at my LBS for a tune-up and forgot to leave the key, and the mechanic was able to get them off without the keys. I'm not sure what he did, but it's probably safe to assume that your average thief won't have the tools or know-how that he did. Still, it made me a little less confident in them, but I also haven't had any problems with them.

DaveK
08-01-2011, 11:31 AM
Like wheel locks for a car - you can get them off without a key, but it's more likely the thief will just move on to something easier.

americancyclo
08-01-2011, 11:39 AM
I've removed them before when the key was lost/missing/not available, and it takes a bit of time. If someone is doing it on the street, I'm sure it would raise suspicion. Like Dave K said, it's a deterrent to encourage the thief to prey on other, less secure bikes.

CCrew
08-01-2011, 11:42 AM
Keep in mind nothing will stop a determined thief. All you can do is try to think at their level and do what you can do to make the target less attractive.

DSalovesh
08-01-2011, 01:46 PM
I've never done it myself, and I won't disclose methods here, but the mechanics at the shop where I work assure me that they can remove OnGuard keyed skewers. Once the method was suggested I realized I've used it for other circumstances so it is likely to work for this, though not without damaging the locking nut.

It would take some effort and attract some attention, though we live in a world where some thieves will chop down trees to get past a $10 lock to take a $50 bike on an open street with people passing by, so I wouldn't put anything past them.

Dan_ator
08-15-2011, 02:31 PM
I have them on a bike that just sits in the locked bicycle room in my building. Apparently a few thieves (who later were caught by DC Metro) broke into the room, stole a few bikes, and my seat. The locking skewer apparently deterred them from getting the seat post, but they still were able to steal the seat itself. So I am not so sure the skewers were worth it. Probably better off with a good cable in addition to your u-lock.

KLizotte
05-02-2012, 02:31 PM
Anybody have any experience with Pinhead or Pitlock security skewers (or other recommendations)? The Pitlocks appear to be the most secure but it seems like they would be a nuisance because you can't put the "key" on a keychain and you must also carry some sort of lever to actually use the key (like an allen wrench).

Thanks.

TwoWheelsDC
05-02-2012, 05:35 PM
I have a set of Delta Axle Rodz on my commuter. They don't lock, but they aren't QR. I figure that's enough of a deterrent for the situations I need them for, like errands. I don't leave my bike out for more than like an hour, and I always have a hex tool, so that's not a concern, and it cuts out the need for a extra special tool.

Mark Blacknell
05-02-2012, 07:07 PM
Eh, not really a fan of locking skewers, as it presents a problem at the roadside if you've managed to forget the key (for me, that's more than a possibility).

Not too long ago, I was confronted with some locking skewers w/o the key. Once I'd had a few minutes to think about it, it took a few seconds to get 'em off. And you'd never know what I was doing, if I were kneeling down next to the bike.

Shorter me: sure, they might cause someone to move onto the next bike without them, but they don't provide any real security.

off2ride
05-02-2012, 08:04 PM
It's more of a delay for a thief. If they really want it, they will take the whole thing.

Justin Antos
05-03-2012, 09:49 AM
I use OnGuard skewers, too. I figure it's worth the money, especially if you ride and park frequently in the city, even though they're not foolproof. It makes me feel safer locking on the street when using just a U-Lock.

The only minor drawbacks I've encountered are:
-- I've had trouble getting enough torque on them with the little key to stop them from moving slightly over time in a horizontal rear dropout on my old Cannondale. There, I switched back to a quick-release.
--Oh, and you have to remember to carry the little key everywhere.

Good luck!

Justin Antos
05-03-2012, 09:51 AM
Oh, and the OnGuard keys now have a bottle opener built into the handle :).

DCAKen
05-03-2012, 10:03 AM
I use the PitLocks skewers since I have a Schmidt generator in my front hub. The key has a hole in it, so it fits on my keychain. The nice thing about that is the key ring gives me enough leverage to tighten or loosen the Pitlock in most cases. It's pretty rare that I have to take the key off the ring and use it with a wrench.

SpokeGrenadeSR
05-03-2012, 04:33 PM
i love these. (image is linked)http://store.velo-orange.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/530x530/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/v/o/vo_anti_theft_skewers.jpg (http://store.velo-orange.com/index.php/accessories/weatherproofing/vo-anti-theft-skewers.html)
they're pretty much the exact same thing that came with my phil wood hubs.

velo orange also sells an allen key with a little key ring on it,
here (http://store.velo-orange.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/530x530/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/r/e/replacement_key_for_anti-theft_skewer.jpg).

Valerie
10-09-2012, 01:11 PM
I was wondering whether anyone has personal experience with the Zefal Lock n' Roll skewers or the newer On Guard locking quick release skewers. Do you have them? Have you had any problems with them? Lost a wheel or a seat as a result? Also, if you have them and haven't had any problems with them, I'd like to know that to.

They guys at my bike shop have them on their own wheels, but I'd like to hear others' experiences.

Thanks!

Tim Kelley
10-09-2012, 01:15 PM
I was wondering whether anyone has personal experience with the Zefal Lock n' Roll skewers or the newer On Guard locking quick release skewers. Do you have them? Have you had any problems with them? Lost a wheel or a seat as a result? Also, if you have them and haven't had any problems with them, I'd like to know that to.

They guys at my bike shop have them on their own wheels, but I'd like to hear others' experiences.

Thanks!

Which On Guards are you referring to? I've seen those defeated with vice grips and a nail in under a minute or so.

Valerie
10-09-2012, 02:20 PM
Well these On Guard ones: http://www.onguardlock.com/?page_id=329

But the first ones on the market were the Zefal ones: http://www.zefal.com/en/locks/81-lock-n-roll.html

I've read things on the internet about how they can be compromised with a magnet (which the bike shop guys tried to no avail) or some leverage with pliers or a pipe or something, but my question is really about personal experiences with them. Do you use them? If so, do you still have your tires and/or seat? Also, experiences from people you actually know (vs. things you've read).

Tim Kelley
10-09-2012, 02:23 PM
Those appear to be better than the ones I've seen.

Where do you plan on locking up? I ask because many parts of Arlington are just fine with locking skewers and can be more of a hassle if you get a flat tire somewhere and don't have your key...

Valerie
10-09-2012, 02:45 PM
various places around DC - H Street, U Street, 14th Street, near the 9:30 Club, anywhere I need to run errands.

DaveK
10-09-2012, 09:18 PM
various places around DC - H Street, U Street, 14th Street, near the 9:30 Club, anywhere I need to run errands.

I lock up in DC all the time on H St with a u-lock and a cable for the wheels. I don't lock my saddle but I've never had any issues.