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Arlingtonrider
01-01-2015, 04:49 PM
The happy hour date has changed! To avoid confusion, please put any info on convoys to the happy hour under this new thread.

Arlingtonrider
01-04-2015, 02:07 PM
The happy hour date has changed! To avoid confusion, please put any info on convoys to the happy hour under this new thread.


Bumping this up to help avoid date confusion. I think people are tentatively planning convoys from the Adams Morgan area and the Jefferson Memorial.

TriGirlSara
01-04-2015, 02:13 PM
I work near the Corcoran, so I'm up for joining a convoy leaving from the Jefferson memorial.


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sethpo
01-04-2015, 03:22 PM
How about a 515pm convoy from the CaBi station near the Jefferson Memorial. This one:

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Boomer2U
01-04-2015, 08:36 PM
I would like to join this convoy if it comes together.

ewilliams0305
01-04-2015, 08:58 PM
Silver Spring convoy???

TriGirlSara
01-04-2015, 10:27 PM
A 5:15 meet up at the Jefferson cabi station works for me. See you there.


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Phatboing
01-05-2015, 06:47 AM
I'll be leaving Tysons a bit after 5, getting to the Gallows intersection at maybe 5.20 if I take the long way.

Powerful Pete
01-05-2015, 09:08 AM
Plan on joining the Jefferson CaBi convoy... I am directionally challenged and don't want to put in too many miles on the 9th desperately trying to find the darn pub... :-)

Rockford10
01-07-2015, 11:25 AM
I'll be leaving Tysons a bit after 5, getting to the Gallows intersection at maybe 5.20 if I take the long way.

As I have a previous engagement Friday night (which continues into Saturday morning), I won't be able to attend. Perhaps other Tysons-ers can represent?! People could even Metro out to Tysons and then bike all the way to happy hour? Find new things in the Gallows bike lane that haven't previously been reported?

Brn Moore
01-07-2015, 02:07 PM
Will try to make the Jefferson convoy!

Greenbelt
01-07-2015, 03:24 PM
We'll be coming through the Jefferson area a bit later, probably closer to 6pm. Happy to pick up stragglers...

jrenaut
01-07-2015, 03:28 PM
Unfortunately, I will NOT be able to lead a Jefferson convoy, so I hope that someone else is able to take my place.

Boomer2U
01-07-2015, 04:37 PM
Do we know what the trail conditions are on the MTV between Jeff Memorial and 4MR trial? I saw from earlier postings that 4MR is clear, FYI. Thank you.

cyclingfool
01-07-2015, 04:41 PM
Do we know what the trail conditions are on the MTV between Jeff Memorial and 4MR trial? I saw from earlier postings that 4MR is clear, FYI. Thank you.

I assume we'll have updates after tonight's commute. I'm about to leave and will probably go that way. I assume it's still a mixed bag w/ some clear spots (thanks, sun!) and some nasty rutted ice. Keep an eye on the January 2015 Trial Conditions thread for collective updates.

sethpo
01-07-2015, 04:42 PM
Unfortunately, I will NOT be able to lead a Jefferson convoy, so I hope that someone else is able to take my place.

I am 95% sure I remember the route after doing it a few times last year (and I'll download the GPX just in case)...

Boomer2U
01-07-2015, 07:39 PM
I am 95% sure I remember the route after doing it a few times last year (and I'll download the GPX just in case)...
I know the route and happy to help marshall the convoy from Jeff Memorial

TriGirlSara
01-07-2015, 09:09 PM
I know the route and happy to help marshall the convoy from Jeff Memorial

Thanks for the offer to lead! I'm going to keep an eye out for a report on what the trail conditions look like. I ride a commuter bike that doesn't have super knobby tires. I can handle a little ice, but if it's too bad I might leave my bike at the office and use public transit to get there.


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Harry Meatmotor
01-08-2015, 07:37 AM
I know the route and happy to help marshall the convoy from Jeff Memorial

Based on this morning's commute, I might recommend taking the CC connector to 18th St. to S. Eads to 4MR - MVT is still kinda nasty, but that may improve today with a little evapotranspiration.

dasgeh
01-08-2015, 09:05 AM
Based on this morning's commute, I might recommend taking the CC connector to 18th St. to S. Eads to 4MR - MVT is still kinda nasty, but that may improve today with a little evapotranspiration.

I would recommend 14th St Bridge --> Humpback bridge tunnel (turn right by the seagull statue) --> Marina parking lot --> LBJ Memorial --> Boundary channel --> Long Bridge Drive --> 12th --> Eads

Slightly shorter would be Boundary Channel --> Connector Road --> R on Army-Navy Drive BUT I don't know the state of Army Navy as it bends along beside 395.

Mikey
01-08-2015, 09:30 AM
I would recommend 14th St Bridge --> Humpback bridge tunnel (turn right by the seagull statue) --> Marina parking lot --> LBJ Memorial --> Boundary channel --> Long Bridge Drive --> 12th --> Eads

Slightly shorter would be Boundary Channel --> Connector Road --> R on Army-Navy Drive BUT I don't know the state of Army Navy as it bends along beside 395.

I second this idea. this is how dasgeh and I convoyed last year and it should be fine. The area between the 14th street bridge - humpback - and LBJ memorial absolutely suck, but the rest isn't bad. We could also cut over on the Pentagon South parking connector road and get on FERN then turn right on Army Navy. As a group we would be fine.

ctankcycles
01-08-2015, 04:05 PM
I second this idea. this is how dasgeh and I convoyed last year and it should be fine. The area between the 14th street bridge - humpback - and LBJ memorial absolutely suck, but the rest isn't bad. We could also cut over on the Pentagon South parking connector road and get on FERN then turn right on Army Navy. As a group we would be fine.

Based on what I experienced this morning, the trail on the 14th Street bridge is also still largely covered in rutted ice. I don't think I'd have fared very well without studs.

TriGirlSara
01-08-2015, 05:00 PM
Based on what I experienced this morning, the trail on the 14th Street bridge is also still largely covered in rutted ice. I don't think I'd have fared very well without studs.

Thanks for the update. I'll feel like a slacker for not arriving by bike at the HH, but I think that doing a 16mi roundtrip ride on icy paths w/o studded tires sounds like a bad idea. Pre-HH sleaze ride it is!

To my peeps planning a convoy from the Jefferson Memorial - ride safe and I look forward to meeting you at HH!


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Arlingtonrider
01-08-2015, 05:11 PM
I just rode east on Four Mile Run from Shirlington to the MVT. As others mentioned earlier, FourMile Run trail is dry and clear up to the MVT. The MVT is still a complete mess with lots of ice.

Please be careful everyone! It's easy to get to Shirlington using bus and metro and it's better to be smart than to get hurt. I updated the first post in the happy hour thread to provide a little more info about buses from Pentagon metro station. You can always make up the mileage another time if you are concerned or don't have the right equipment.

averagejo
01-08-2015, 09:57 PM
I'll be joining in on the Jefferson Memorial convoy. Can't wait!

Harry Meatmotor
01-09-2015, 08:03 AM
thanks to credentialing issues in my place of business (and not wanting to be stinky all day), i was forced to take non-pedal-powered means of transport to work today. unfortunately I won't be able to catch the convoy, but will ride over to Cap City once I get home otherwise. i know, boo, hiss...

Justin Antos
01-09-2015, 09:15 AM
Any rationale for riding across Memorial Bridge and up to Rosslyn, then down through Arlington streets, to avoid MVT?

jwetzel
01-09-2015, 09:33 AM
I plan to join the 1715 convoy from Jefferson Memorial, on a CaBi.

ShawnoftheDread
01-09-2015, 09:36 AM
Any rationale for riding across Memorial Bridge and up to Rosslyn, then down through Arlington streets, to avoid MVT?

I think you'd be better off walking the section between Memorial Bridge and Boundary Channel than going up to Rosslyn.

dasgeh
01-09-2015, 10:02 AM
Any rationale for riding across Memorial Bridge and up to Rosslyn, then down through Arlington streets, to avoid MVT?

I wouldn't go up to Rosslyn, but I believe this route (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Lincoln+Memorial,+2+Lincoln+Memorial+Circle+NW,+Wa shington,+DC+20037/Capitol+City+Brewing+Company,+Campbell+Avenue,+Arl ington,+VA/@38.8566066,-77.0760531,15z/data=!3m1!5s0x89b7b14f7321f721:0xd088afec49924b1b! 4m24!4m23!1m15!1m1!1s0x89b7b771e0906287:0x1049d1c9 c95c2eb6!2m2!1d-77.050176!2d38.889269!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0595323!2d38.8850949!3s0x89b7b6feefed9671:0x309 d136cfee2e3cf!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0792594!2d38.8811078!3s0x89b7b6f318fd7969:0x6f2 660a776237289!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b14f69bfc23f:0xdc903 a5c68ba16b6!2m2!1d-77.087342!2d38.841083!3e1)will get you Lincoln Memorial - Shirlington with little to no ice. Memorial Bridge is great, reports have said that Fort Myer is, as expected, great, and based on my experience on other Arlington Roads, I would expect 2nd St S and Walter Reed to be fine. I really don't know about Kenmore and Shirlington, but the neighborhood streets that I've seen (Courthouse, Lyon Village, Cherrydale) have been good with small, avoidable patches of ice (don't pick up too much speed on down hills).

At 5.8 miles, possibly the shortest route (though you go up on Fort Myer just to come back down on Kenmore/Shirlington).

EDIT: I changed the route linked to above, but just to be clear, when crossing the Memorial Bridge, I highly recommend always taking the DOWNSTREAM side, which means crossing to the south (Independence Ave) side of the Lincoln Memorial, then heading to the bridge.

Arlingtonrider
01-09-2015, 10:15 AM
Dasgeh, are those two parkway crossings safely doable during rush hour? I've only done them on weekends.

Justin Antos
01-09-2015, 10:23 AM
I believe this route (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Lincoln+Memorial,+2+Lincoln+Memorial+Circle+NW,+Wa shington,+DC+20037/Capitol+City+Brewing+Company,+Campbell+Avenue,+Arl ington,+VA/@38.8674335,-77.0829196,15z/data=!3m1!5s0x89b7b14f7321f721:0xd088afec49924b1b! 4m19!4m18!1m10!1m1!1s0x89b7b771e0906287:0x1049d1c9 c95c2eb6!2m2!1d-77.050176!2d38.889269!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0792594!2d38.8811078!3s0x89b7b6f318fd7969:0x6f2 660a776237289!1m5!1m1!1s0x89b7b14f69bfc23f:0xdc903 a5c68ba16b6!2m2!1d-77.087342!2d38.841083!3e1) will get you Lincoln Memorial - Shirlington with little to no ice.

No ice is a good thing! I'm thinking I'll just try to ride with a convoy of folks more familiar with Arlington than I. This route looks good. Reports from my Strava feed this morning suggest Memorial Bridge is clear, and 14th St. Bridge is icy and yucky.

dasgeh
01-09-2015, 10:30 AM
Dasgeh, are those two parkway crossings safely doable during rush hour? I've only done them on weekends.

There's only one crossing (not of the Parkway, but of the ramp from 27 to the Bridge), and if you take the DOWNSTREAM side of the bridge, you have great sightlines. You can't assume all drivers will stop, but it's not bad. I didn't have to wait at all this am. Last night I don't think there were any cars coming that way.

jopamora
01-09-2015, 10:30 AM
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DismalScientist
01-09-2015, 10:31 AM
Dasgeh, are those two parkway crossings safely doable during rush hour? I've only done them on weekends.

On Dasgeh's route, there is only one crossing. It's safe if you wait for both lanes to stop, but it may take some time depending on the amount of traffic.

The shortest route (involves 2 crossings) is this:https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.8885706,-77.0516748/38.8405889,-77.0867475/@38.864623,-77.0877112,14z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m9!4m8!1m5!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0775427!2d38.8453751!3s0x89b7b135b81fd37d:0x3fe 4d02274a634d0!1m0!3e1

The Eads St route (involves 2 crossings) described earlier is this: https://www.google.com/maps/dir/38.8885706,-77.0516748/38.8405889,-77.0867475/@38.8645897,-77.0864237,14z/data=!4m24!4m23!1m20!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0522212!2d38.8749303!3s0x89b7b71cf4e71475:0x699 9ad84f6fcc0da!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0536288!2d38.8602248!3s0x89b7b7271d68461b:0xc86 c0c908e3a5679!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0600975!2d38.8434226!3s0x89b7b12a37174969:0x7e9 2747f4649758a!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0738594!2d38.8439494!3s0x89b7b133e534ca49:0x9bb 495a914eeb16c!1m0!3e1

Dasgeh just picked her route because she likes hills.:rolleyes:

dasgeh
01-09-2015, 10:33 AM
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I love hashers.

sethpo
01-09-2015, 10:39 AM
So I only know one route from DC to Shirlington -- Cross the 14th st bridge, MVT to 4MR.

If someone has a better route they are comfortable leading, holler up. Otherwise, 5:15 at the TR CaBi station and we can hope that the sun and warmer temps today have cleared things up.

lordofthemark
01-09-2015, 10:44 AM
wait is there still a convoy from the Jefferson?

I have a hybrid bike with the relatively wide but not studded tires it came with. I am also a slow rider, so any convoy will have to be patient. I was thiniking of riding to the Jefferson and joining any convoy. Alternatively I could ride to the Pentagon and bus to Shirlington (but that means the 14th street bridge, plus those little trails between the MVT and the Pentagon lot) Or I could try to use metrorail and hope on an icy friday no one will mind the bike. The bike has been at work all week, and I want to get it home, and do some riding today (even if it is only home from Shirlington - that still is over a mile)

jopamora
01-09-2015, 10:46 AM
So I only know one route from DC to Shirlington -- Cross the 14th st bridge, MVT to 4MR.

If someone has a better route they are comfortable leading, holler up. Otherwise, 5:15 at the TR CaBi station and we can hope that the sun and warmer temps today have cleared things up.

If you want to avoid the MVT then you can take this route. (https://www.google.com/maps/dir/Thomas+Jefferson+Memorial,+701+East+Basin+SW,+Wash ington,+DC+20242/38.840981,-77.0875505/@38.8692983,-77.041478,15z/am=t/data=!4m19!4m18!1m15!1m1!1s0x89b7b70b820c5cc5:0x38 066ff1e5cd919c!2m2!1d-77.036463!2d38.881004!3m4!1m2!1d-77.051076!2d38.8721111!3s0x89b7b71c1271638d:0x64a4 792376381c07!3m4!1m2!1d-77.0538913!2d38.8630266!3s0x89b7b720dc06b083:0xe79 0ea7c66154368!1m0!3e1)

DismalScientist
01-09-2015, 10:48 AM
Even from the Jefferson Memorial, with the conditions on the 14th Street Bridge and the MVT, the fastest route is likely to be taking Ohio Drive up to Memorial Bridge and use the routes described in posts #30 and #35 above.

sethpo
01-09-2015, 10:51 AM
Those alternates look fine as long as someone more familiar with the area is leading the way. I have no intention of leading a convoy on a route I've never taken in an area I rarely travel :)

scoot
01-09-2015, 11:05 AM
I too would recommend dasgeh's route as it is the most ice-free option. Everything controlled by NPS is a mess. This includes MVT as well as the trail along Route 27 (from Mem Bridge to the north edge of the Pentagon Reservation). I can confirm that the Fort Myer roads, 2nd St S, and Walter Reed are all in excellent condition.

The disadvantage is the entry process for the base itself. You will need photo ID. You must enter Wright Gate before 6pm if it is not a DoD ID (or 11pm if you have DoD ID). As for the return trip, I know that Hatfield Gate is manned 24/7, but I don't know whether visitors are permitted to enter here at all hours. If so, the Wright Gate exit is probably barricaded after 11pm.

Notice that I am not mentioning the hill as a disadvantage. :D

Boomer2U
01-09-2015, 11:12 AM
I am familiar with the proposed route across the Memorial bridge (southbound) and happy to Marshall. I will not use the 14th Street Bridge as I ride on a roadie with skinny tires and avoid ice like a plague.

Boomer2U
01-09-2015, 11:14 AM
Dasgeh, are those two parkway crossings safely doable during rush hour? I've only done them on weekends.
I have made those crossings at rush hour, and yes, the cars will stop.

Boomer2U
01-09-2015, 11:22 AM
I second this idea. this is how dasgeh and I convoyed last year and it should be fine. The area between the 14th street bridge - humpback - and LBJ memorial absolutely suck, but the rest isn't bad. We could also cut over on the Pentagon South parking connector road and get on FERN then turn right on Army Navy. As a group we would be fine.
My only concern is with using the 14th Street Bridge, which I understand is still icy. The Memorial Bridge (downstream side) is reported to be ice free.

ctankcycles
01-09-2015, 11:24 AM
I really don't know about Kenmore and Shirlington, but the neighborhood streets that I've seen (Courthouse, Lyon Village, Cherrydale) have been good with small, avoidable patches of ice (don't pick up too much speed on down hills).

The roads in and around Shirlington are all clear.

DismalScientist
01-09-2015, 11:29 AM
I am familiar with the proposed route across the Memorial bridge (southbound) and happy to Marshall. I will not use the 14th Street Bridge as I ride on a roadie with skinny tires and avoid ice like a plague.

Just to reiterate, if you are on a bike with slicks, you may wish to walk the 2 block part of the Washington Blvd/Route 27 sidepath that is icy.
The route to the north of Ft. Myer is ice-free, but longer (and hillier!).

Boomer2U
01-09-2015, 11:36 AM
It looks like the consensus is that the Memorial Bridge (downstream, South side) is the better choice to cross the Potomac as the 14th Bridge is still "icy and yucky". So I propose that we ride from the Cabi station at Jefferson Memorial to the Memorial bridge and cross together. We then have 3 relatively ice free options from postings #30 (go climb a hill North to go South) and #35 (flat 4.9 or 6.4 miles). I can do any of them. But please sound off on your preference if you plan to join the convoy at 5:15pm.

dasgeh
01-09-2015, 11:36 AM
(and hillier!).

That's why I suggested it. [/sarcasm]

For those of you who are familiar with my desire to find the flattest route, you'll appreciate that I would still pick the on-road, ice-free, 1-mile-longer and 1-large-hill-more route over walking the few blocks of ice on the 27 trail. I'm very ice (and fall) adverse. That said, I could see making the other choice.

jwetzel
01-09-2015, 11:41 AM
I don't often cross the moat. I'll be at the CaBi station and follow the party. A quick looks seems like it might be more than a 30 minute trip, are there CaBi stations along either route that I could top up my time at?

lordofthemark
01-09-2015, 11:51 AM
It looks like the consensus is that the Memorial Bridge (downstream, South side) is the better choice to cross the Potomac as the 14th Bridge is still "icy and yucky". So I propose that we ride from the Cabi station at Jefferson Memorial to the Memorial bridge and cross together. We then have 3 relatively ice free options from postings #30 (go climb a hill North to go South) and #35 (flat 4.9 or 6.4 miles). I can do any of them. But please sound off on your preference if you plan to join the convoy at 5:15pm.

If it is a steep hill and you guys want me to keep up, you will need to be very patient.

consularrider
01-09-2015, 12:01 PM
I don't often cross the moat. I'll be at the CaBi station and follow the party. A quick looks seems like it might be more than a 30 minute trip, are there CaBi stations along either route that I could top up my time at?

Take the route through Crystal City and you have several CaBi stations to choose from.

dasgeh
01-09-2015, 12:08 PM
I don't often cross the moat. I'll be at the CaBi station and follow the party. A quick looks seems like it might be more than a 30 minute trip, are there CaBi stations along either route that I could top up my time at?

The ice-free route is a block away from a CaBi station (at Courthouse and 27) -- should be an easy detour to go down Courthouse Road to the station, then take Uhle Street back to 2nd St S.


If it is a steep hill and you guys want me to keep up, you will need to be very patient.

It's not that bad. Just long.

sethpo
01-09-2015, 12:12 PM
It looks like the consensus is that the Memorial Bridge (downstream, South side) is the better choice to cross the Potomac as the 14th Bridge is still "icy and yucky". So I propose that we ride from the Cabi station at Jefferson Memorial to the Memorial bridge and cross together. We then have 3 relatively ice free options from postings #30 (go climb a hill North to go South) and #35 (flat 4.9 or 6.4 miles). I can do any of them. But please sound off on your preference if you plan to join the convoy at 5:15pm.

Thanks! I have no route preference and will happily follow along. I rode my MTB today so don't drop me :)

tawdryaudre
01-09-2015, 12:33 PM
It looks like the consensus is that the Memorial Bridge (downstream, South side) is the better choice to cross the Potomac as the 14th Bridge is still "icy and yucky". So I propose that we ride from the Cabi station at Jefferson Memorial to the Memorial bridge and cross together. We then have 3 relatively ice free options from postings #30 (go climb a hill North to go South) and #35 (flat 4.9 or 6.4 miles). I can do any of them. But please sound off on your preference if you plan to join the convoy at 5:15pm.

So happy there will be a non-icy convoy! Count me in -- I will meet you guys at 515 at the Jefferson Memorial CaBi station.

My preference would be the longer route (because POINTS!) but I am just happy to ride safely so I will defer to you all. I'm not a speedy rider, but sounds like I won't be alone on the tortoise front today. So that's cool. Thanks Boomer2U for marshalling us!

Boomer2U
01-09-2015, 12:45 PM
Thanks! I have no route preference and will happily follow along. I rode my MTB today so don't drop me :)
This will be a no drop convoy, unless we go climb the hill:-)

Powerful Pete
01-09-2015, 02:06 PM
I will not be joining the CaBi Jefferson Convoy - will meet directly at the get together.

Thanks!

Rod Smith
01-09-2015, 11:49 PM
Thanks lordofthemark for leading us in. Awesome was the convoy that did a Hains loop on the way home. Moonrise over the Washington Channel.