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Megabeth
12-05-2014, 08:31 AM
Hey folks,

I'm doing it again...the Hains Point 100 on December 21st.

If you know all about the HP100 - then just go here and let me know you're coming: www.hainspoint100.com (http://www.hainspoint100.com).

If you've never heard of it, well, it started in 2012 as a fundraiser for WABA's Women & Bicycles program (http://www.waba.org/programs/women-bicycles/) and my one-woman attempt to do 100 miles around Hains Point without passing out from boredom. So, I gathered up a bunch of friends and a bunch of great supporters to provide handups, giveaways, raffle prizes, freebies and more. I did it again last year...and now I'm putting on the HP100 once again!

This is not a formal ride, so you can show up and loop around Hains Point as many times as you'd like. All I ask is that if you participate in the festivities you provide a donation to WABA's Women & Bicycles program. Full details about what to expect can be found here: http://www.hainspoint100.com/whats-the-hp100.html

Visit the Facebook Event Page (https://www.facebook.com/events/1500138973584716/) to see who else is coming. Perhaps, for some of ya'll, this could be a great meet up, pre-Freezing Saddles, day of riding!

I've got a great line-up of supporters this year which include:

Sticky Fingers Sweets & Eats (http://www.stickyfingersbakery.com/)
The Bike Rack DC (http://thebikerackdc.com/)
BikeArlington (http://www.bikearlington.com/)
Capital Bikeshare (https://www.capitalbikeshare.com/)
Po Campo (http://pocampo.com/)
Bikie Girl Bloomers (http://www.bikiegirlbloomers.com/)
bird industries (http://www.birdind.com/)
http://spokesetc.com/
Acme Pie Co. (http://www.acmepieco.com/)
Chainspirations.com (http://www.chainspirations.com/)
Peanut Butter & Co. (http://ilovepeanutbutter.com/)
Ass Savers (http://ass-savers.com/)
Proteus Bicycles (http://www.proteusbicycles.com/)
Oury Grip USA Inc. (http://www.ourygrips.com/)
Revolution Cycles, Inc. (http://revolutioncycles.com/)
Kozie Prery (https://www.etsy.com/shop/KoziePrery)
Nuu-Muu (http://www.nuu-muu.com/)
Bikenetic - Full Service Bicycle Shop (http://www.bikenetic.com/)
KIND (http://www.kindsnacks.com/store/)
House of Steep (http://www.houseofsteep.com/)
Special FX Lighting, Inc. (http://www.fxlight.com/rainbows/index.html)
Handy Bikes DC (http://handybikesdc.com/)
Best Bike Rides DC (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0762780819/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0762780819&linkCode=as2&tag=falcon0b2-20)
Momentum Mag (http://momentummag.com/)
WTFKits (http://wtfkits.tumblr.com/)

I look forward to seeing ya'll on the 21st!

consularrider
12-05-2014, 03:38 PM
I signed up yesterday, this will make my third HP100 event! Hope you're healed enough to enjoy the ride.

Vicegrip
12-05-2014, 04:25 PM
My daughter and I are in on a tandem and my son might be able to make it too

APKhaos
12-05-2014, 04:48 PM
IN for my second HP100. Great event!

Rod Smith
12-07-2014, 07:00 PM
I'm planning to do it on a CaBi bike.

Megabeth
12-16-2014, 07:58 AM
Just bumping this up again...don't forget the HP100 is this Sunday!

My house is now busting with great hand-ups, giveaways and more from some awesome sponsors who are supporting Women & Bicycles. Recruit the women in your life to come join you! All are invited.

You can get more details on www.HainsPoint100.com (http://www.hainspoint100.com) and also on the Facebook event page (https://www.facebook.com/events/1500138973584716/) where I'm updating with some of the great stuff I'll be giving away. If you're coming, please remember to fill out the "sign up" form so I have an idea of how many are coming and to send out any last minute updates.

By the way, you don't have to ride the whole 100 miles...this year the "100" means 100 miles, 100 kilometers, 100 miles (as a team), 100 minutes or 100% support for WABA's Women & Bicycles.

See you on the 21st!

Hope to see you out there!

Steve O
12-16-2014, 11:43 AM
By the way, you don't have to ride the whole 100 miles...this year the "100" means 100 miles, 100 kilometers, 100 miles (as a team), 100 minutes or 100% support for WABA's Women & Bicycles.

See you on the 21st!

How about 100 seconds?

Megabeth
12-16-2014, 12:54 PM
How about 100 seconds?

As long as you donate to Women & Bicycles it can even be 100 nanoseconds!

ShawnoftheDread
12-16-2014, 02:02 PM
My daughter still talks about the 11 laps she did on her trail-a-bike for the first HP100.

She came home from school one day indignant that her teacher clearly didn't believe her claim that she rode her bike 33 miles.

We will be out of town this year, alas.

dasgeh
12-16-2014, 02:27 PM
Like so many marriages in their third year, HP100 is getting kidical!

Quick question, before I post more details: can someone confirm that the play structure near the tip of HP still exists? Google street view shows moved Earth...

Tim Kelley
12-16-2014, 02:44 PM
Quick question, before I post more details: can someone confirm that the play structure near the tip of HP still exists? Google street view shows moved Earth...

Yes, it's there.

dasgeh
12-16-2014, 03:08 PM
The Hains Point 100 gets Kidical: this SUNDAY, 12/21 10am -- That's right, come down to Hains Point this Sunday, ride some loops, support WABA's Women & Bicycles, & add to the Kidical total. Come for the main roll out (10am) to join a kidical group, or just come when you can and add your miles to the total. Lots of give-aways and treats.
Details on the HP 100: http://www.hainspoint100.com/
Details on the Kidical challenge: kidicalmassarl.blogspot.com

rcannon100
12-20-2014, 08:20 PM
Pre - HP100 Coffee Club meeting at Baked & Wired in G'town at 9 am (they open at 9 on Sunday)

http://www.blog.thehoya.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/tumblr_lsxndzRo7j1r4yxico1_500.jpg

Greenbelt
12-21-2014, 04:09 PM
Rod Smith and Steve O sightings at WABA Women and Bicycles Hains Point 100
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10609439_763744693692250_2119042535735738105_n.jpg ?oh=da3dd4f1aaab019884c207860766ddb1&oe=553C220C&__gda__=1426387077_5a74266996d7432716008f0a410f063 e
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10392625_763744700358916_1948006584918076989_n.jpg ?oh=2e1fb64707298aaaa20dd69fc8735b81&oe=5506F36C&__gda__=1429759717_f4ec07bcf16ad3fad08c277821c5634 e

consularrider
12-21-2014, 05:09 PM
Pre - HP100 Coffee Club meeting at Baked & Wired in G'town at 9 am (they open at 9 on Sunday)

http://www.blog.thehoya.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/tumblr_lsxndzRo7j1r4yxico1_500.jpg

If only I had known! :(

Harry Meatmotor
12-21-2014, 05:47 PM
That was awesome! Glad I could make it down. The VWS team and I were there for a short while and I had a chance to put my nose in the wind for the Bikenetics guys for a few laps - hope that helped! Especially for Vin (I believe - I'm horrible with names) on the fixie leading the charge!!! Rock on -

rcannon100
12-21-2014, 06:11 PM
I rode the HP100/2 (which is actually longer than I have ridden for..... oh.... let's just say a few decades)


http://youtu.be/-qjlDg4FA_s

BTW Gypsybug has an amazing collection of photos here https://www.flickr.com/photos/gersema/sets/72157649862204151/

dcv
12-21-2014, 06:16 PM
That was awesome! Glad I could make it down. The VWS team and I were there for a short while and I had a chance to put my nose in the wind for the Bikenetics guys for a few laps - hope that helped! Especially for Vin (I believe - I'm horrible with names) on the fixie leading the charge!!! Rock on -

Thanks for the long pull, I was pretty spent by then. Good to meet you in person.

V

rcannon100
12-21-2014, 06:31 PM
Soooooo..... anyone know any more on the cops at HP? I have heard they were being dinguses bc the cyclist had a beer in the bottle cage?

APKhaos
12-21-2014, 06:36 PM
Soooooo..... anyone know any more on the cops at HP? I have heard they were being dinguses bc the cyclist had a beer in the bottle cage?

They were ticketing for failing to come to a complete stop at the stop sign. Saw that happen. Didn't hear about the beery bidon though. Wish I'd thought to suggest they book guys for speeding. At least that would be a badge of honor...or something.

rcannon100
12-21-2014, 06:47 PM
I dont think talking to these police would have been wise. They led one of us away in handcuffs. That's a bit more than ticketing.

JoeB
12-21-2014, 06:53 PM
Good question, rcannon100 - I was awarded a citation today during the Hains Point 100, but compared to the guy getting carted off in handcuffs it looked like I may have gotten off easy.

Got my ticket for “T072 - DISOBEY TRAFFIC DEVICE OR OFFICER WHILE ON A BIKE” just before noon, after an oncoming driver waved me through the intersection by the gate at the northwest corner of the loop. Cop said that didn't matter, I'm supposed to stop anyway and then I guess engage in a battle of arm-waving and confusion to sort out who'll actually go through the intersection when.

Not the kind of hand-up I was hoping for from the HP100, to be honest, but I’m curious: did any other forum members pull a short straw today?

P.S. Nothing was mentioned about any beers in bottle cages, and in fact the cop was polite & professional throughout the whole thing. Mulishly devoted to hyper-literal enforcement of that particular stop sign at that particular instant, but still: politely and professionally mulish.

rcannon100
12-21-2014, 07:05 PM
I am sorry to hear this.

First, you may wish to challenge the ticket as it may have consequences for your license.

Second, I would contact Eleanor Holmes Norton. If you are a citizen of DC, contact her from that perspective. If you are a "visitor" to DC, asking her about the reception of NPS to visitors to DC.

Just because the police were polite doesnt mean this wasnt complete BS. Cyclists have attempted to work with NPS about this. There is NO REASON these intersections could not be redesigned to eliminate the requirement for bikes to stop. It is just stupid. And.... and okay I wont type the stronger words I have.

Greenbelt
12-21-2014, 07:47 PM
Three cars to arrest the guy for a beer. And they would have left his bike on the side of the road had people not stopped to help. Sorry but this has much more to do with cops not having anything better to do than with security or safety.
7228

Steve O
12-21-2014, 10:56 PM
http://youtu.be/-qjlDg4FA_s

Hey! There I am riding with dasgeh at :06 and outright featured at 1:05 - 1:06. I'm a star!!

baiskeli
12-22-2014, 07:44 AM
Got my ticket for “T072 - DISOBEY TRAFFIC DEVICE OR OFFICER WHILE ON A BIKE” just before noon, after an oncoming driver waved me through the intersection by the gate at the northwest corner of the loop. Cop said that didn't matter, I'm supposed to stop anyway and then I guess engage in a battle of arm-waving and confusion to sort out who'll actually go through the intersection when.

Sorry to hear that.

This is an example of how motorists can screw over a cyclist even when they are trying to be nice.

bobco85
12-22-2014, 07:49 AM
I rode the HP100/2 (which is actually longer than I have ridden for..... oh.... let's just say a few decades)


http://youtu.be/-qjlDg4FA_s

BTW Gypsybug has an amazing collection of photos here https://www.flickr.com/photos/gersema/sets/72157649862204151/

Looks like it was a lot of fun, and you guys did a great job in the chilly weather! What was the final turn-out for the ride?

Megabeth
12-22-2014, 11:45 AM
I'm going to count those that signed-in later today but for now...estimating maybe 300? Thanks for everyone coming out and supporting the ride. Getting ready for this event is such a ride in itself and now I've got to stop swirling!

I can also update that the person who fell, with ambulance called, is just fine. She stopped by later to let us know. She didn't go to the hospital. All good. Just abundance of caution! Her bike got checked out by Handy Bikes DC and with a few little adjustments is just fine, too.

(Re: tickets, I got one last summer at HP. They never entered it into the system for me to pay. So, according to the ticket I received, after a certain time it's null and void if not entered into the system. Also, it was from the NPS and not DC so even if it was put into the system, it wouldn't show up on my license as points or anything...no connection.)

JoeB
12-22-2014, 02:52 PM
(Re: tickets, I got one last summer at HP. They never entered it into the system for me to pay. So, according to the ticket I received, after a certain time it's null and void if not entered into the system. Also, it was from the NPS and not DC so even if it was put into the system, it wouldn't show up on my license as points or anything...no connection.)

No such luck for me, I'm afraid, the ticket I got is labeled a "DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA NOTICE OF INFRACTION" even though it was signed by a US Park Police officer, and it's already online in DC's payment system here: http://dmv.dc.gov/service/pay-ticket

The officer did explain the same basic thing about the outcome with respect to points on my license - namely that since it's a bicycling infraction it's not supposed to trigger any demerit points with the VA DMV. Really wish I could find some actual proof of that from the VA DMV side of things, though.

But even despite the ticket, Beth, I really enjoyed the event. Many thanks for setting it up - we're already looking forward to next year!! My kids both did their first HP loops yesterday (hopefully first of many, for years to come!), and I'd love to think they could look forward to those future loops without feeling like (and occasionally being treated like) a criminal just for riding sensibly & carefully through those intersections. As far as I can tell here: http://www.waba.org/advocacy/priorities/, WABA doesn't see this as one of their top ten priorities - and to be clear: I'm not sure it should be a top priority. But I do think it should be somewhere on their radar screen.

So can anyone fill in my ignorance about WABA's official or unofficial views about the stop signs at Hains Point? Is the idea of getting those changed to yield signs for cyclists (either at particular times/days/during events or permanently) too much at odds with the rest of their goals for cycling in DC? Anyone know who in particular I could follow up with about that, either here on the forum or offline?

JoeB
12-22-2014, 02:57 PM
BTW, the officer also added an interesting point while he wrote out my ticket, namely that he said they'd received "a lot of complaints" about cyclists and stop signs at Hains Point.

Anybody happen to know if that's true, or more specifically: exactly what counts as "a lot" in this context? Do they get 50 complaints per year? 500? 10? And from whom: are all these "complaints" coming from tour bus drivers who'd prefer not to share that loop with anyone at all, or from the general public more broadly?

Better yet: is there anyone on the forum who works at or with the National Park Service who could fill us in on their approach towards cycling at Hains Point in general?

dasgeh
12-22-2014, 03:42 PM
So can anyone fill in my ignorance about WABA's official or unofficial views about the stop signs at Hains Point? Is the idea of getting those changed to yield signs for cyclists (either at particular times/days/during events or permanently) too much at odds with the rest of their goals for cycling in DC? Anyone know who in particular I could follow up with about that, either here on the forum or offline?

So I don't know WABA's official or unofficial views about the stop signs at Hains Point, specifically, but in my opinion, those particular stop signs shouldn't be high on the list of priorities. There are just SO MANY AREAS where we need improvements to make cycling safer -- true protected bike lanes of reasonable width providing a network of travel, signal and signage improvements at countless intersections, eliminating at-grade crossings of what are basically highways, lighting, maintenance of trails, adequate, safe side-paths along the bridges, routing signage, driver's education, getting cycling education into the schools, etc, etc -- that making cycling more convenient in an area that's primarily used for training just doesn't strike me as a high priority. Just focusing on NPP, my top issues would be (1) enforcing speed limits, yielding to cross-walks and other driving laws on NPS roads; and (2) not having NPP block crosswalks and curb cuts around the memorials.

I do think changing the law for all stop signs to be Idaho stop would be a good move, and I thought that was on WABA's radar, just not high on the list. Changing the law in DC would change the law for those 3 stop signs. But I, for one, would be pretty disappointed if WABA focused its limited advocacy work on those three stop signs and not, say, on the Intersection of Doom, Teddy Roosevelt Bridge, or Route 50 Trail.

dasgeh
12-22-2014, 03:45 PM
BTW, the officer also added an interesting point while he wrote out my ticket, namely that he said they'd received "a lot of complaints" about cyclists and stop signs at Hains Point.

Anybody happen to know if that's true, or more specifically: exactly what counts as "a lot" in this context? Do they get 50 complaints per year? 500? 10? And from whom: are all these "complaints" coming from tour bus drivers who'd prefer not to share that loop with anyone at all, or from the general public more broadly?

Better yet: is there anyone on the forum who works at or with the National Park Service who could fill us in on their approach towards cycling at Hains Point in general?


I take what the officers say with a grain of salt. When my commute took me across the Memorial Bridge daily, I'd complain in person and online weekly about drivers not stopping/yielding at crosswalks. In person, every single time, I was told that NPP had "never heard there was a problem".

BTW, your complaint is with National Park Police (NPP), not National Park Service (NPS). And MegaBeth = Megan (not Beth).

JoeB
12-22-2014, 04:25 PM
I take what the officers say with a grain of salt. When my commute took me across the Memorial Bridge daily, I'd complain in person and online weekly about drivers not stopping/yielding at crosswalks. In person, every single time, I was told that NPP had "never heard there was a problem".

BTW, your complaint is with National Park Police (NPP), not National Park Service (NPS). And MegaBeth = Megan (not Beth).

All very helpful, thanks! And Megan, sorry to have fouled up your name - wonder how I ever managed to get that wrong... ;-)