PDA

View Full Version : Cyclocross 2014



vvill
10-03-2014, 09:15 AM
So, if you're interested in spectating or participating in a cyclocross race, the season has begun!

There's a conveniently expanded list of dates compiled here:
http://teambikenetic.wordpress.com/

which includes events from the two main series of races in this area:

Super 8 CX http://www.super8cx.org/
Sportif Cross Cup http://www.sportifcrosscup.com/

as well as more endurance-oriented events like Iron Cross (this Sunday), and after the season there's also Monster Cross (https://www.bikereg.com/25161) (Feb 22, 2015).

jrenaut
10-03-2014, 09:27 AM
Don't forget DCCX October 18-19.

vvill
10-03-2014, 09:43 AM
Don't forget DCCX October 18-19.

It's in the list but yeah, it's running TWO days this year! (I'm assuming it's a reversed course on the second day so the race flow will be different both days.)

I recommend the rookie race if you just want to try one CX race, it's open to just about any kind of bike, and riders of any age + skill level, and you don't have to get up early to ride it. It was my first CX race a couple of years ago, and I even got a beer hand-up.

TwoWheelsDC
10-03-2014, 09:58 AM
I would be much more tempted to spectate if the races weren't so far away...

rcannon100
10-03-2014, 10:04 AM
Sunday is in Hyattsville.

DCCX is next month in Rock Creek Park I think.

And Bikenetic CX is in Oquacan (sp) in December.

See Blog that has some dates: Windy Run: This is Cyclocross (http://windy-run.blogspot.com/2014/10/this-is-cyclocross.html)!

thucydides
10-03-2014, 10:53 AM
It's in the list but yeah, it's running TWO days this year! (I'm assuming it's a reversed course on the second day so the race flow will be different both days.)

I recommend the rookie race if you just want to try one CX race, it's open to just about any kind of bike, and riders of any age + skill level, and you don't have to get up early to ride it. It was my first CX race a couple of years ago, and I even got a beer hand-up.

So what's your read on the "beginner" races that I see listed on some events. (Most don't have rookie races though as you noted DCCX does.) They're listed as Cat 4/5. Now you couldn't pay me to race a Cat 4/5 crit. Have you watched or participated in any of these beginner CX races?

culimerc
10-03-2014, 11:30 AM
So what's your read on the "beginner" races that I see listed on some events. (Most don't have rookie races though as you noted DCCX does.) They're listed as Cat 4/5. Now you couldn't pay me to race a Cat 4/5 crit. Have you watched or participated in any of these beginner CX races?
CX is different. By 1/2 way through the first lap the field pretty much sorts itself out enought so that at anytime there's only a couple of people around you. much more room, much slower speeds, much softer ground. Short answer is DOOO EEEET!

jrenaut
10-03-2014, 11:32 AM
Also, can't speak for the rest, but DCCX is awesome as a spectator, too. Easy to get around and watch from different spots, good food and beer, kid-friendly.

KayakCyndi
10-03-2014, 11:57 AM
.... and after the season there's also Monster Cross (https://www.bikereg.com/25161) (Feb 22, 2015).

Currently pondering this one. If I go I'll make a weekend of it. Going down to our place in WB on Friday pm before hitting the race Sunday. I'll have room for guests ....

hozn
10-03-2014, 12:05 PM
So what's your read on the "beginner" races that I see listed on some events. (Most don't have rookie races though as you noted DCCX does.) They're listed as Cat 4/5. Now you couldn't pay me to race a Cat 4/5 crit. Have you watched or participated in any of these beginner CX races?

Yeah, what culimerc said, basically.

Though if you want a softer introduction, I believe that DCCX has a cat-5-only rookie race. At least they have in the past. You will see a high percentage of the 4/5 field will be USAC registered riders working to move up in category. You will see a lot of tubular tires with deep carbon rims. The front riders will be fast. There may be crashes (my first cx race was the now-equivalent 4/5 race at DCCX and someone crashed out and took down a few people a quarter into the first lap) but as culimerc noted crashing on grass at 15mph is a lot nicer than on the road at double that speed.

vvill
10-03-2014, 12:37 PM
I would be much more tempted to spectate if the races weren't so far away...

I hear ya. This is the most driving I've done all year!


So what's your read on the "beginner" races that I see listed on some events. (Most don't have rookie races though as you noted DCCX does.) They're listed as Cat 4/5. Now you couldn't pay me to race a Cat 4/5 crit. Have you watched or participated in any of these beginner CX races?

Yeah, I've done 3 Cat 4/5 races in addition to the one DCCX rookie race. (I've also finished one Cat 5 crit, and after the awful sounds of a crash behind me I decided not to race a crit anytime soon again!)

My read is that CX racing is pretty different. Most people won't crash dangerously because their handling skills, fitness limits and sanity will prevent them from riding fast enough to really hurt themselves. Of course there's exceptions, but it's not like road racing where the peloton pretty much dictates you ride in a big tight bunch at 25mph+ if you want to be competitive/not ride solo, and your heart rate will probably be higher overall in CX, so you will be hanging on and gasping rather than thinking about attacking or shooting a gap. For most riders in most of a CX race you'll be riding against 1 or 2 other riders who are close to you. Those 1-2 riders might change as you overtake/get overtaken but there's no peloton to speak of, and there's only a crowd of riders for the first 1/2 a lap or so.

That said, if you don't like riding on deliberately unpredictable terrain/conditions and a relatively high probability of mechanical issues, then CX is probably not for you. I really enjoy it because my bike handling/cornering is pretty poor - I can balance fine on a straight line on smooth road but would like to improve my overall bike handling skills, and CX is great for that. And as hozn mentioned, a certain part of the CX crowd (Cat 4/5 included) is straight from the road racing scene - so they carry a similar competitive mentality and high-spending bike/gear habits (although some of them also just race for fun as an off-season pursuit). But there's still the tradition of a "party in the back" in CX races (moreso in the West Coast races though I think).

If you're interested in trying out smaller fields, the Sportif series races seem to be less popular - sometimes < 30 racers in the Cat 4/5.


Currently pondering this one. If I go I'll make a weekend of it. Going down to our place in WB on Friday pm before hitting the race Sunday. I'll got room for guests ....

Cool! I'm pondering it too, but will wait to see how I feel after CX season to make a decision on it. I think at least one of the Team Sticky Fingers ladies is going.

rcannon100
10-03-2014, 12:51 PM
This is the most driving I've done all year!

You guys are such poseurs. Driving? Driving! You guys dont know from Driving!

http://fc07.deviantart.net/fs70/o/2011/065/6/6/6610b7449f7d6901fe45763f6f6c7e86.png

vvill
10-03-2014, 01:01 PM
Can't see the image :(



There's also an unofficial CX practice group that meets at Gravelly Pt, right now it is 6pm or so on Thursday (also a smaller Tuesday group I think)

Not as fun as actually doing a CX race, since there's no tape, but it's a good race simulation when they have this many strong riders, and the course is reasonably representative of what you may encounter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttUebck4juw

rcannon100
10-03-2014, 01:28 PM
Can't see the image :(


The Kid used to play Tier II Travel Hockey. In the "local" CBHL were teams from Richmond, Charlottesville, Norfolk, Easton, Baltimore, and Hagerstown. One season he was the goalie for the Charlottesville team.

I dont miss hockey travel.

cyclingfool
10-03-2014, 02:00 PM
The Kid used to play Tier II Travel Hockey. In the "local" CBHL were teams from Richmond, Charlottesville, Norfolk, Easton, Baltimore, and Hagerstown. One season he was the goalie for the Charlottesville team.

That's why my youth hockey career came to a grinding halt when at age 10 my family moved from western PA to Hampton Roads. I continued to play/practice for another year or so after we moved, but even then the "local" rink was in Va. Beach 40 minutes from our house w/o bridge-tunnel traffic. Eventually, sadly, it just wasn't worth the effort anymore. By contrast, the most distant rink we traveled to in PA was maybe an hour and a half away.

Sunyata
10-06-2014, 09:35 AM
Currently pondering this one. If I go I'll make a weekend of it. Going down to our place in WB on Friday pm before hitting the race Sunday. I'll have room for guests ....

I am doing Monster Cross. This will be my third year. I am trying to determine if I should do the short course or the long course. The first year I did the long one and it was fun, but it got a little boring on the second lap. Last year, I did the short course and had a BLAST. Especially because I finished earlier than everyone else and got to start drinking beer! I am also riding a hard tail mountain bike, so I am a bit slower than the folks on CX bikes (which may explain why the short loop was so much more fun than the long one!).

GuyContinental
10-06-2014, 10:21 AM
Can't see the image :(



There's also an unofficial CX practice group that meets at Gravelly Pt, right now it is 6pm or so on Thursday (also a smaller Tuesday group I think)

Not as fun as actually doing a CX race, since there's no tape, but it's a good race simulation when they have this many strong riders, and the course is reasonably representative of what you may encounter:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttUebck4juw

Are we going to start up morning CX club again?

hozn
10-06-2014, 10:28 AM
Are we going to start up morning CX club again?

I would do that sometime, sure. Especially if it was in the 6:00am/6:30am timeframe.

Alternatively/additionally, if anyone wants to ride their CX bikes through Lake Fairfax in the AM, I am always game -- assuming trails are dry enough to avoid damage (which they may not be just now). I typically enter at Tamrack around 6:45-7am and exit at the ice rink around 7:30-45, depending on pace. Could also meet at ice rink and ride the other way (which is arguably the better way to ride, just less "on the way" for me). It's rideable on 32mm tires, but a little more carefree on the 38/42 setup I'm running now.

Harry Meatmotor
10-09-2014, 02:36 PM
Hyattsville results are up:

http://www.crossresults.com/race/4279

Tim Kelley
10-09-2014, 02:58 PM
Hyattsville results are up:

http://www.crossresults.com/race/4279

Found me!

http://www.nofilmphotography.net/hyattsville_45_2014/h3badc923#h3badc923 #PainFace

rcannon100
10-09-2014, 04:06 PM
Found me!

http://www.nofilmphotography.net/hyattsville_45_2014/h3badc923#h3badc923 #PainFace

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15264453968_fd8fc7dd17_c.jpg

Tim Kelley
10-09-2014, 04:07 PM
"photo unavailable"

rcannon100
10-09-2014, 04:17 PM
"photo unavailable"

??????? Did you break the Internet??

Look here: Photos from today's Hyattsville CX first few races (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128210603@N02/sets/72157648358644826/page2/)

https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3931/15264369970_afc8d738ec_c.jpg
Photo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128210603@N02/15264369970/in/set-72157648358644826)


https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15264453968_1f9caf885b_c.jpg
Photo (https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15264453968_1f9caf885b_c.jpg)

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2946/15264387490_0b7a0e8d32_c.jpg
Photo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128210603@N02/15264387490/in/set-72157648358644826)

Hand full of pics of Dave K in the lot as well.

vvill
10-10-2014, 08:53 AM
Are we going to start up morning CX club again?

I was talking to Cyndi about it this morning! Especially since the post-work time slot is tougher to do now. We were thinking of doing Bluemont sometime since it's more conveniently located than Gravelly Pt, but neither of us know the course.

rcannon100
10-10-2014, 08:57 AM
The Kid does. You just go up and down the hill to the old farm house.

vvill
10-10-2014, 11:11 AM
The Kid does. You just go up and down the hill to the old farm house.

I don't think I've ridden the regular Bluemont trail more than twice, ever, so yeah... no idea!

hozn
10-10-2014, 11:28 AM
I was talking to Cyndi about it this morning! Especially since the post-work time slot is tougher to do now. We were thinking of doing Bluemont sometime since it's more conveniently located than Gravelly Pt, but neither of us know the course.

I would definitely be in for this -- assuming early enough. I've ridden that trail exactly twice too -- that night ride around Halloween last year (probably same time as vvill).

Tim Kelley
10-10-2014, 12:18 PM
Linky link: http://www.strava.com/segments/2461921

MattAune
10-10-2014, 01:43 PM
The problem with bluemont is that there are multiple trail crossings. There is a great run up though.

KayakCyndi
10-10-2014, 02:10 PM
The problem with bluemont is that there are multiple trail crossings. There is a great run up though.

So Matt and Hozn can we arm twist you into leading us through the course one morning early next week if the forecast deluge turns out being a false alarm?

hozn
10-10-2014, 05:06 PM
Maybe Matt can lead? I will refresh my memory from the link Tim posted, though, and am happy to try to pick through it. Otherwise, yeah! Though looking at the forecast, seems like late week.

Greenbelt
10-16-2014, 09:30 AM
What is DCCX schedule of races? A quick Google didn't find.

dcv
10-16-2014, 11:16 AM
https://www.bikereg.com/25825

rcannon100
10-17-2014, 04:47 PM
Word is that the guard at the gate is stopping everyone, checking IDs, and writing information down. In other words, leave LOTS of extra time for getting in the gate. And a reminder, apparently, no dogs.

rcannon100
10-21-2014, 01:39 PM
Ed Sanders CX Race has gone to the Halloween Dogs! Costumes + CX. Frightful! https://www.facebook.com/edsandercyclocross