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cyclingfool
02-24-2014, 01:00 PM
Inspired by a thread here (http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?6601-what-does-your-cockpit-look-like-(Wireless-computer-headlight-interference)) earlier today and other similar ones I've seen on other cycling-related internet forums, I thought it would be fun to get a first person POV perspective on what people see from their bikes as they ride. It's interesting to see what kind of handlebars people use, color of tape or grips, bells and of course all the lighting and GPS/bike computer gadgetry mounted on handlebars. Let us see what you see.

Here's my view on my old Trek 830 drop bar converted MTB with a few generally superfluous labels added.

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Phatboing
02-24-2014, 01:37 PM
Inspired by a thread here (http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?6601-what-does-your-cockpit-look-like-(Wireless-computer-headlight-interference)) earlier today and other similar ones I've seen on other cycling-related internet forums, I thought it would be fun to get a first person POV perspective on what people see from their bikes as they ride. It's interesting to see what kind of handlebars people use, color of tape or grips, bells and of course all the lighting and GPS/bike computer gadgetry mounted on handlebars. Let us see what you see.

Here's my view on my old Trek 830 drop bar converted MTB with a few generally superfluous labels added.



How does the eTrex work as a bike computer? I keep waffling between getting an Edge or eTrex (the latter being the cheaper and more attractive option, natch).

cyclingfool
02-24-2014, 03:18 PM
How does the eTrex work as a bike computer? I keep waffling between getting an Edge or eTrex (the latter being the cheaper and more attractive option, natch).

I've been very pleased. I've never had or used an Edge so can't make that comparison, but I do love my eTrex. I'd been computerless on my current bike since building it up in May, but prior to that, I had a Planet Bike Protege 9. which included a temperature sensor, which I do miss in the eTrex. Also missing are multiple odometers; there's only one trip odometer and a lifetime odometer, generic to the unit Another minor con is that it doesn't work like the Edge units with Strava in that you have to manually select gpx files to upload (it won't sync automatically), but that's minor as well in my book. It takes ten seconds to identify the gpx file(s) to upload. Backlight allows it be easily visible in the dark, which I had issues with on my Cateye and PB computers in the past. I'd be happy to answer other specific questions, if you have 'em. For me, the price was right, it was a pain using my phone to record rides between battery and accuracy issues, Freezing Saddles was coming up, and I had an REI gift card burning a hole in my pocket from the holidays and no other more compelling items to spend it on that REI had in stock or carried, so I plunked down the gift card to cover a good chunk of the cost of the eTrex and haven't really looked back... just down at the GPS screen. ;)

TwoWheelsDC
02-24-2014, 03:26 PM
Little cramped on my FG due to lights, but that's the burden of winter commuting:

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3773/12755363363_fcaf48683e_z.jpg

Dirt
02-24-2014, 05:01 PM
I tend to run my light UNDER the handlebars in order to reduce the clutter.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7131/6944141390_577c4a0ba4_b.jpg
Kinda hard to see, but the bars are not too cluttered. 2 lights and a gps.

Phatboing
02-24-2014, 09:42 PM
I'd be happy to answer other specific questions, if you have 'em.


Have you ever used it for navigation? What about planning rides with RideWithGPS and plunking them onto the etrex?

And in keeping with the thread, here's my ode to clutter:

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Fast Friendly Guy
02-25-2014, 05:09 AM
How does the eTrex work as a bike computer? I keep waffling between getting an Edge or eTrex (the latter being the cheaper and more attractive option, natch).

I have both eTrex VISTA (which I used for mountaineering before I got the Oregon 650) and I have the Edge 810 for cycling and navigating on two wheels. I tried using the etrex for cycling--bought two kinds of handlebar mounts, and I can tell you there's no question that the Edge is the way to go for cycling. I plan routes using ridewithgps, download to the Edge 810, then use the maps and displayed routes to help guide me (one example is on Strava art rides). I'm buying Garmin Euro maps for my Edge 810--for a week of bicycle touring in Spain with Karen B this summer--wouldn't do it any other way!
Dave

americancyclo
02-25-2014, 06:59 AM
I'm buying Garmin Euro maps for my Edge 810--for a week of bicycle touring in Spain with Karen B this summer--wouldn't do it any other way!
Dave
Did you know you can get just as good (or better) maps for nearly any garmin for free?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download

I used these maps to navigate around bermuda when we went a few years ago. handy to have nav without needing to pay for data roaming on the phone!
also use them here in the states to navigate for local rides.

happy to talk about it in another thread...more info here:
http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?3672-Using-a-GPS-to-guide-a-ride

TwoWheelsDC
02-25-2014, 07:48 AM
Did you know you can get just as good (or better) maps for nearly any garmin for free?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garmin/Download

I used these maps to navigate around bermuda when we went a few years ago. handy to have nav without needing to pay for data roaming on the phone!
also use them here in the states to navigate for local rides.

happy to talk about it in another thread...more info here:
http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?3672-Using-a-GPS-to-guide-a-ride

+1 OSM is all I've ever used with my 800, for rides in quite a few different states and the French Alps. Other than being free, the main benefit is that they are updated constantly (pretty much weekly, I think), so you can be much more confident that your GPS reflects the reality on the street.

Phatboing
02-25-2014, 08:15 AM
I have both eTrex VISTA (which I used for mountaineering before I got the Oregon 650) and I have the Edge 810 for cycling and navigating on two wheels. I tried using the etrex for cycling--bought two kinds of handlebar mounts, and I can tell you there's no question that the Edge is the way to go for cycling. I plan routes using ridewithgps, download to the Edge 810, then use the maps and displayed routes to help guide me (one example is on Strava art rides). I'm buying Garmin Euro maps for my Edge 810--for a week of bicycle touring in Spain with Karen B this summer--wouldn't do it any other way!
Dave

Ah, thanks.

Spain! I'm very jealous now.

I'm leaning towards the Edge Touring, I think, if for no other reason than for the WSGFABR feature:


With round trip routing, you can tell Edge Touring how far you’d like to ride and then choose from up to 3 ride options that will bring you back to where you started.

cyclingfool
02-25-2014, 08:29 AM
Have you ever used it for navigation? What about planning rides with RideWithGPS and plunking them onto the etrex?

And in keeping with the thread, here's my ode to clutter:

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Nice. 1x? setup I take it by the lack of a front shifter? Do you like those bars? Are they Salsa Woodchippers? They've always intrigued me.

As for the eTrex, I have not played around with navigation too much yet. It's easy to drag and drop gpx files, say from RideWithGPS, and follow it as a track (which you can set up to give you audible warnings when you stray too far off the track [e.g., miss a turn, I presume], but that's not exactly turn by turn direct from RWGPS. I've read about some workarounds that allow you to see distances to next waypoint, for instance, with waypoints at each turn, or even get some turn by turn instructions, but they usually involve BaseCamp or Training Center, so it's not just a simple download situation either. IOW, pure simple turn by turn using tracks downloaded from RWGPS or similar are probably handled better by an Edge.

rpiretti
02-25-2014, 08:44 AM
Pretty minimal as you can see. I try to avoid anything on the bars - my Busch and Mueller light is below the handlebar bag, this puts the light squarely on the road and gets away from blinding folks, the (loud) Crane bell is on the stem, my GPS system is on the top of the bag, cell phone and wallet holders are the two pockets on the bag that you see, rounded out by whiskey bottle bar plugs. (Americancyclo's directions are still up because you know, it's going to snow on into May).

http://bikearlingtonforum.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4847&d=1393339109

Phatboing
02-25-2014, 09:03 AM
Nice. 1x? setup I take it by the lack of a front shifter? Do you like those bars? Are they Salsa Woodchippers? They've always intrigued me.


Technically, yeah - 5-speed IGH. The bars are indeed Woodchippers, and I love them, though less so on this bike. (They're best when you use drops as the primary position, which I haven't done here, and I'm not a fan of the way this setup feels when riding on the hoods)



As for the eTrex, I have not played around with navigation too much yet. It's easy to drag and drop gpx files, say from RideWithGPS, and follow it as a track (which you can set up to give you audible warnings when you stray too far off the track [e.g., miss a turn, I presume], but that's not exactly turn by turn direct from RWGPS. I've read about some workarounds that allow you to see distances to next waypoint, for instance, with waypoints at each turn, or even get some turn by turn instructions, but they usually involve BaseCamp or Training Center, so it's not just a simple download situation either. IOW, pure simple turn by turn using tracks downloaded from RWGPS or similar are probably handled better by an Edge.

Thanks. The Edge Touring to smash together the best features of both the eTrex and the Edge, so I'm going to start convincing myself that throwing another $250 at bike things is just a standard everyday thing.

cyclingfool
02-25-2014, 09:47 AM
Thanks. The Edge Touring to smash together the best features of both the eTrex and the Edge, so I'm going to start convincing myself that throwing another $250 at bike things is just a standard everyday thing.

Yeah the Edge Touring looks REALLY nice and is probably more exactly what I need for cycling. Had I had a little more money to spend and done a little more research, I would maybe have gone that way. I'm happy with the eTrex so far, though, and have read enough positive reviews and experiences with it on cycling and even touring specific websites that I don't second guess my purchase.

cyclingfool
02-25-2014, 09:52 AM
my GPS system is on the top of the bag

That's a sweet GPS. Great battery life, too, I bet. ;)

vvill
02-25-2014, 10:01 AM
No light here, but it's to the left of the GPS when I have it on. (Ignore the glove on the right - nothing under there.)
http://scontent-a-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/t1/1970430_774186878321_394880466_n.jpg

dkel
02-25-2014, 11:25 AM
Light. Bell.

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That's all I need 99% of the time, though sometimes I could use a clock, since I don't wear a watch.

Also, if you'll indulge me a small rant: the clip that holds the light to the handlebar bracket broke as I was taking the light off when I got to work! :mad: Now what am I supposed to do? The replacement bracket is $15! I think I'll glue the clip back together, clip the light into it (while hoping that snapping the light in doesn't break it again), and resort to unclamping the whole bracket from the bars when I need to charge the light. Stupid dingus.

Ok. Rant concluded. :)

Steve O
02-25-2014, 11:38 AM
Also, if you'll indulge me a small rant: the clip that holds the light to the handlebar bracket broke as I was taking the light off when I got to work! :mad: Now what am I supposed to do? The replacement bracket is $15! I think I'll glue the clip back together...

Good luck with that. I have never ever ever ever had success trying to glue a broken bike thingy. It might work for about a day, or maybe a week. But I totally hear you about the ridiculous $15 for a 29 cent piece of plastic. Time to hone your McGyver skills. (Did I say "never ever ever ever?" I meant "never ever ever ever ever.")

KayakCyndi
02-25-2014, 11:56 AM
. (Americancyclo's directions are still up because you know, it's going to snow on into May).



Those will probably come in handy tonight and tomorrow morning ... sigh.

rpiretti
02-25-2014, 12:05 PM
That's what I fear.


Those will probably come in handy tonight and tomorrow morning ... sigh.

Dirt
02-25-2014, 12:16 PM
Where do y'all put your coffee mugs???
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7345/12775764894_d822f04088_b.jpg

DismalScientist
02-25-2014, 12:24 PM
Where do y'all put your coffee mugs???


Water bottle holder? :rolleyes:

vvill
02-25-2014, 12:36 PM
The replacement bracket is $15!


Good luck with that. I have never ever ever ever had success trying to glue a broken bike thingy.

I can't wait for 3D printing to get cheaper.

DismalScientist
02-25-2014, 12:39 PM
Bicycle mounts for flashlights cost about $1 on Ebay. Just saying...:rolleyes:

Dirt
02-25-2014, 12:46 PM
Water bottle holder? :rolleyes:
Mine doesn't fit there very well. It bends up the cage a lot. :D

consularrider
02-25-2014, 01:12 PM
Mine doesn't fit there very well. It bends up the cage a lot. :D
Maybe a slightly smaller coffee mug. Yeah, but it doesn't give the same caffiene jolt, does it? Maybe brewing an extremely strong cafe Americano (or a quintupal espresso?) instead of that that insipid drip stuff?

Dirt
02-25-2014, 01:36 PM
Maybe a slightly smaller coffee mug. Yeah, but it doesn't give the same caffiene jolt, does it? Maybe brewing an extremely strong cafe Americano (or a quintupal espresso?) instead of that that insipid drip stuff?
My handlebar coffee mug holder seems to work pretty well. :D

consularrider
02-25-2014, 01:39 PM
My handlebar coffee mug holder seems to work pretty well. :D
But it takes up so much real estate. :D

dkel
02-25-2014, 02:00 PM
Bicycle mounts for flashlights cost about $1 on Ebay. Just saying...:rolleyes:

I have one of those, and used it with a flashlight (which was terrible; I spent the dough on a real light very soon thereafter). The problem is that the opening is round, and my light isn't. I might be able to come up with some packing for it, though. Tonight I'm going to try a rubber band around the back end of the light, as a stop to keep it from sliding out of the bracket. I have high hopes for it (and I always favor a MacGyver solution anyway: very pro).

Dirt
02-25-2014, 02:45 PM
But it takes up so much real estate. :D
I guess I just don't need that much real-estate. 2 lights, garmin and a coffee mug holder and I've still got virtually the entire right side of my bars available for what-ever. Problem is.... I can't think of anything else I want to add to my bars. Maybe another coffee mug holder!

consularrider
02-25-2014, 02:59 PM
I guess I just don't need that much real-estate. 2 lights, garmin and a coffee mug holder and I've still got virtually the entire right side of my bars available for what-ever. Problem is.... I can't think of anything else I want to add to my bars. Maybe another coffee mug holder!
Where's Hello Kitty? Besides you always seem to have at least one hand off the bars taking pictures. ;)

sethpo
02-25-2014, 02:59 PM
Also, if you'll indulge me a small rant: the clip that holds the light to the handlebar bracket broke as I was taking the light off when I got to work! :mad: Now what am I supposed to do? The replacement bracket is $15! I think I'll glue the clip back together, clip the light into it (while hoping that snapping the light in doesn't break it again), and resort to unclamping the whole bracket from the bars when I need to charge the light. Stupid dingus.

Ok. Rant concluded. :)

That looks like it's a Cygolite. If it is, you might try calling or emailing them and seeing if they will send a replacement free. They sent me replacement rubber covers for the usb port. Here's the contact info:

Stephen
Cygolite
Customer Service
(714) 437-7752
Cygolite Spare Parts <spare@cygolite.com>

And FWIW, I switched to a helmet mount for mine found on ebay for about $10. I love the ability to point the light at cars the might not see me as the try and enter the road and equally the ability to aim the bright light away from on-coming cyclists on the trail. Added bonus: saves cockpit space!

DismalScientist
02-25-2014, 03:19 PM
I have one of those, and used it with a flashlight (which was terrible; I spent the dough on a real light very soon thereafter).

I would only use a flashlight mount with a flashlight. Flashlight are getting better and more durable recently.

You can tie the light on your helmet with a piece of inner tube.

dkel
02-25-2014, 03:23 PM
That looks like it's a Cygolite. If it is, you might try calling or emailing them and seeing if they will send a replacement free. They sent me replacement rubber covers for the usb port. Here's the contact info:

Stephen
Cygolite
Customer Service
(714) 437-7752
Cygolite Spare Parts <spare@cygolite.com>

And FWIW, I switched to a helmet mount for mine found on ebay for about $10. I love the ability to point the light at cars the might not see me as the try and enter the road and equally the ability to aim the bright light away from on-coming cyclists on the trail. Added bonus: saves cockpit space!

All excellent info. Thanks!

Isn't this forum the best? :cool:

ShawnoftheDread
02-25-2014, 03:52 PM
I guess I just don't need that much real-estate. 2 lights, garmin and a coffee mug holder and I've still got virtually the entire right side of my bars available for what-ever. Problem is.... I can't think of anything else I want to add to my bars. Maybe another coffee mug holder!

It probably helps that your bars appear to be about 70 cm wide (give or take).

jrenaut
02-25-2014, 04:17 PM
Light. Cheap computer. Bell. Should have swept the floor first.

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5513/12779959955_ba015a50a2_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetejon/12779959955/)
Show us your cockpit (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetejon/12779959955/) by thetejon (http://www.flickr.com/people/thetejon/), on Flickr

OneEighth
02-25-2014, 04:32 PM
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Like Pete, I use the Exposure light and mount it beneath the bar to allow me to use the tops close to the stem. I keep the light on a lanyard just in case. Front brake on the right.
No data.
No problem.

hozn
02-25-2014, 06:39 PM
Pretty much like everyone else's :)
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/26/jede3y8e.jpg

dbb
02-25-2014, 07:13 PM
With a camera pouch and the Felkerino cue sheet holder (and glove drying area)

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w490/dbb-bike/CannondaleCockpit_zps8e3bbc6b.jpg (http://s1078.photobucket.com/user/dbb-bike/media/CannondaleCockpit_zps8e3bbc6b.jpg.html)

The cyclometer stays on the bike and I use the Garmin episodically.

dkel
02-25-2014, 07:37 PM
I just love these I'll-show-you-mine-if-you-show-me-yours threads!

ShawnoftheDread
02-25-2014, 08:12 PM
Pretty much like everyone else's :)
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/02/26/jede3y8e.jpg

Sweet fancy Moses, what is that air-cooled light?!

hozn
02-25-2014, 08:19 PM
Sweet fancy Moses, what is that air-cooled light?!

Yeah, bling right? It is a Supernova Airstream -- shaped beam. This model is significantly discounted ($150) at peter white now:

http://www.peterwhitecycles.com/supernovabat.asp

guga31bb
02-26-2014, 08:48 AM
Pretty standard stuff for my commuter (empty holder is for a light):

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/FHFRokEENgkniUHo-3UxcZHSV8Yb5CW9uq6mYEHlgnRa=w1402-h929-no

Greenbelt
02-26-2014, 09:49 AM
Bent brake hood and all

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FFX_Hinterlands
03-04-2014, 08:08 AM
Bar Mitts, bag on front box rack, fenders, flaps, bell. Step through frame for quick dismounts.

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Dirt
03-04-2014, 09:09 AM
Bar Mitts, bag on front box rack, fenders, flaps, bell. Step through frame for quick dismounts.

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Love it! Great use of the cargo rack too.

Dirt
03-04-2014, 09:17 AM
My post-apocalyptic bike has arguably the most cluttered cockpit in the history of bikes.
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2816/12912999334_335557c210_b.jpg

Camera Bag
GPS (Barfly TT mount fits MTB bars nicely)
folding knife (You never know when you'll need to field dress a bear that you've killed)
Moose Mitts
Revelate bag (on the side of the stem) holds camera, food, etc.
Frame back (inside the front triangle) holds a dry pair of gloves, lock and extra tube.
Zip ties duct taped to the handlebars.... just in case.
Exposure Revo dynamo light under the handlebars.

Steve
03-04-2014, 11:53 AM
My post-apocalyptic bike has arguably the most cluttered cockpit in the history of bikes.


The only thing not on Dirt's handlebars are, well, his hands.

Dirt
03-04-2014, 12:08 PM
The only thing not on Dirt's handlebars are, well, his hands.
Almost true... The hip flask is on the back of the saddle.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3747/12913053373_1f198662d5_b.jpg

baiskeli
03-14-2014, 03:01 PM
"Show us your cockpits"

I beg your pardon!

Dirt
04-27-2014, 09:03 AM
2 pounds of BBQ is a great accessory to add to any bike.
https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2925/14053879393_fe5e548200_b.jpg

TwoWheelsDC
05-02-2014, 10:15 PM
Keepin' it simple. Also, looks like it's almost time for some new tape...

https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/14089979631_810200a7a5_z.jpg

Starduster
05-04-2014, 10:48 AM
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The '81 Trek 412.

Normally I prefer the computer on the right side, but with the taller stem I needed to install a year ago, you see the problem. The Dia-Compe brakeset is one of the few remaining OE components on this bike (though with the Kool-Stop salmon pads I prefer).

Things were even more cramped in decades past, when I ran a Nightsun Commuter lightset clamped to the handlebar.

DismalScientist
05-04-2014, 04:03 PM
The '81 Trek 412.


That looks like a threadless fork, but the actual fork looks original. How does one do that?

cyclingfool
05-04-2014, 08:33 PM
That looks like a threadless fork, but the actual fork looks original. How does one do that?

Threaded to threadless adapter (http://www.jensonusa.com/!s6qn-UXBdDmRgejqj4sBRA!/Dimension-Quill-Stem-Adaptor?utm_source=FRGL&utm_medium=organic&gclid=CLHHz77Rk74CFdJxOgodIkIA6g). I have the one linked here on my 1995 Trek 830 MTB drop bar conversion. Nice piece of kit. Allows me to take advantage of the whole array of modern stems.

Starduster
05-04-2014, 10:03 PM
Threaded to threadless adapter (http://www.jensonusa.com/!s6qn-UXBdDmRgejqj4sBRA!/Dimension-Quill-Stem-Adaptor?utm_source=FRGL&utm_medium=organic&gclid=CLHHz77Rk74CFdJxOgodIkIA6g). I have the one linked here on my 1995 Trek 830 MTB drop bar conversion. Nice piece of kit. Allows me to take advantage of the whole array of modern stems.

Bingo! Precisely the one. Mine came from QBP c/o my local bike shop (Papillon, Arlington). The only adapter I found that allowed for significant height adjustment. I had run a long & low Tioga Tange Prestige MTB stem on this arguably one size small frame for a long time. After two decades, I found I no longer fit it as well. I needed 1" further back, 2" up. There is the Nitto Technomic- beautiful traditional forged aluminum, but I thought the traditional straight "negative rise" extension was ridiculous for a stem intended to sit you more upright. So...
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More pics of this old Trek are elsewhere on the "Show us Your Bike" thread.

And if anyone is lusting after that Tioga Prestige stem, talk to Larry @ the Old Bike Shop. I donated it to him...

Phatboing
05-06-2014, 08:51 AM
Finally going to see how this silliness works on an actual mtb ride this evening.

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vvill
05-06-2014, 10:05 AM
Finally going to see how this silliness works on an actual mtb ride this evening.

Sorta like flared drops without the tops?

Thought I was gonna be seeing some Enve disc fork goodness when I clicked through to here.

Phatboing
05-06-2014, 10:20 AM
Sorta like flared drops without the tops?

I call them Woodchippers for the indecisive, because the backward sweep is almost exactly the same.



Thought I was gonna be seeing some Enve disc fork goodness when I clicked through to here.

Hey, now. I have other bikes, all special (https://www.dropbox.com/s/7x41t7stav54f4x/2014-04-05%2012.52.42.jpg), and I love them all equally in different ways (https://flic.kr/p/epdpXd).

Harry Meatmotor
05-07-2014, 02:38 PM
while trying to take this picture (http://bikearlingtonforum.com/showthread.php?3077-My-Morning-Commute&p=84589#post84589), i inadvertently took a fuzzy cockpit pic.

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edit: something about "fuzzy cockpit pic" makes me giggle.

dcv
05-09-2014, 12:08 PM
fuzzy cockpit
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc399/vng2327/bike%20posts/20140509_071927_zps05e31f76.jpg