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peterw_diy
12-11-2013, 08:03 PM
I decided to populate the Gear data for my account and add my longtail family bike. What says Strava?

"The weight must be at most 50lbs"

Ha. My longtail is probably 60 pounds all on its own, and when I ride it I generally have another 30-100 pounds of gear and non-pedaling passengers loaded on it. But sure, Strava, if you can't conceive of an, um, "athlete" riding a bike heavier than 50 pounds, I guess that's what I'll tell you. You'll think I'm pathetic for my uphill speeds. But you know what, it's your fault. Suck it, Strava.

KLizotte
12-11-2013, 09:38 PM
I wonder if they are trying to weed out ebikes?

peterw_diy
12-11-2013, 10:38 PM
I wonder if they are trying to weed out ebikes?

I certainly think they don't want to be associated with those types. Or adults on trikes. The horror! This is a social network for athletes, people!

dkel
12-11-2013, 11:39 PM
When I get my ELITE frame made out of beryllium, it will only way a couple of pounds, and Strava's MINIMUM weight is 11 pounds...:rolleyes:

jcpetrson
12-12-2013, 07:52 AM
Suck it, Strava.

That's a lot of hatred for a free site.

Rod Smith
12-12-2013, 08:37 AM
Tell me about it! Most of my miles are pulling a trailer (45lb), plus handtruck (15lb), Rubbermaid bin with supplies (15lb). Add bike with rack, lock, and bottles (34lb). Does heavy duty large Chrome backpack with radio and phone strapped to it count? More weight when I'm actually transporting large packages. I think I told Strava my body weight was 180 and they were asking for kilograms. Although I'm near the bottom on most segment leaderboards, my wattage is pretty high! :)

Tim Kelley
12-12-2013, 10:27 AM
If you really want to be elite, you could just ride everywhere with a power meter and not have to worry about Strava trying to make estimates based off of rider/bike weight...

mstone
12-12-2013, 11:48 AM
I'd actually love to see a bakfiets with a power meter. Suck it, racers. :D

Tim Kelley
12-12-2013, 11:56 AM
I'd actually love to see a bakfiets with a power meter.

A Stages crank that fits both a cargo bike and a cross bike makes sense to me.

dasgeh
12-12-2013, 11:57 AM
I'd actually love to see a bakfiets with a power meter. Suck it, racers. :D

I know a bakfiets you could install one on...

Tim Kelley
12-12-2013, 11:59 AM
I know a bakfiets you could install one on...

Wouldn't your electric assist mess up the data?

mstone
12-12-2013, 12:01 PM
Wouldn't your electric assist mess up the data?

One person's "mess up" is another person's "hilarious bar to set". I recommend a hub power meter for best effect.

dasgeh
12-12-2013, 12:03 PM
Wouldn't your electric assist mess up the data?

What mstone said.

But as a serious question, would hub e-assist mess up a crank power meter?

And sometimes "we" turn off e-assist. And by "we" I mean "my husband".

Tim Kelley
12-12-2013, 12:11 PM
One person's "mess up" is another person's "hilarious bar to set". I recommend a hub power meter for best effect.

I would think that a hub based power meter would under report an e-assist bike, if the e-assist was front wheel based. (Is there such a thing a e-assist rear wheel that incorporates a power meter as well?)

mstone
12-12-2013, 12:18 PM
I have no idea how an e bike works, and was assuming something like a motorcycle. It is a much harder problem to solve if the motor is in the hub.

peterw_diy
12-12-2013, 12:27 PM
All I need is a pedal-based meter, like this new one from Garmin (http://sites.garmin.com/vector/) which costs more than my bike & all its accessories. And then some pedal inserts so we can ride with street shoes. And some Ant+ device to collect the data. No problem. Ha.

Today Strava prompted me to enter a weight for a ride. I thought, hey, this is perfect for those of us with significant differences in cargo weights for different rides. Of course Strava just wanted my body weight. It seems I can always count on them to let me down! :-)

peterw_diy
12-12-2013, 12:53 PM
OK, I have to give Strava some credit. It appears that power estimates are tied to activities and not your current body weight. Leave your profile body weight blank and you can use Strava.com to manually trigger calculation for a ride, using different weights for each ride.

dasgeh
12-12-2013, 12:54 PM
BTW, Hope to see you on a Kidical Mass Arlington (kidicalmassarl.blogspot.com)ride sometime! We have lots of fun types of bikes to ogle...

peterw_diy
12-13-2013, 12:22 AM
BTW, Hope to see you on a Kidical Mass Arlington (kidicalmassarl.blogspot.com)ride sometime! We have lots of fun types of bikes to ogle...
Thanks! I definitely want to do that, most likely once it warms up a bit, since I'll be coming up from Alexandria and don't want to ask too much of my passengers. We got the longtail pretty recently (barely missed the Halloween kidical) and I want the kids to really love their early experiences on it. I know, this would be a piece of cake with a box bike that included a rain/wind tent...

cvcalhoun
12-17-2013, 04:54 PM
I suppose I should be grateful that my bike is only about 64 lbs.--a hybrid bike, plus various accessories, plus panniers, plus whatever is in the panniers at the time. However, knowing that Strava thinks that no bicycle is more than 50 lbs. at least makes me feel a bit better about the fact that my average mph is only about 8. In my defense, many of my rides are up and down Wisconsin Avenue, and that two-mile uphill out of Georgetown definitely lowers my average speed!