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Tim Kelley
10-30-2013, 12:59 PM
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Okay, here's the post you've all been waiting for!

Next week, next Monday and Wednesday we're having our annual Lights for Bikes Giveaway and we need volunteers!

Monday, 11/4, we'll be at the intersection of Lynn St, Lee Highway and the Custis Trail in Rosslyn. We'll be setting up on the NW corner of the intersection in the large grassy area (instead of on the NE corner by the I-66 off ramp). We'll plan to be there around 5pm and go until about 7ish or so. We need volunteers from the forum to help pass out lights and reflective gear. We'll need some folks standing in the old spot (on the NE corner) flagging down people to tell them to come across if they want something.

Wednesday, 11/6, we'll be at the intersection of Columbia Pike and the W&OD Trail. We'll do it the same time, 5-7ish. We'll have the Washington Lee Bike Club joining us for part of it too!

Everyone is welcome to come and help pass out goodies and then grab some extras to outfit any ninjas you may see on the trail. Just drop a quick post here if you plan on coming so we generally have an idea of how many people to expect!

Did I forget anything?

jrenaut
10-30-2013, 01:01 PM
Did I forget anything?
Pie?

Tim Kelley
10-30-2013, 01:08 PM
Oh, and I forgot to mention that jrenaut is bringing pie!

Thanks for volunteering! :cool:

DismalScientist
10-30-2013, 01:08 PM
Thanks, jrenaut.

jrenaut
10-30-2013, 01:18 PM
How am I going to get a pie to Virginia? That's crazy.

DismalScientist
10-30-2013, 01:21 PM
With that fancy new touring bike you have. Just bungie it to the rack.:rolleyes:

Tim Kelley
10-30-2013, 01:22 PM
How am I going to get a pie to Virginia? That's crazy.

Seems straightforward enough: http://goo.gl/maps/jc9VG

jrenaut
10-30-2013, 01:23 PM
With that fancy new touring bike you have. Just bungie it to the rack.:rolleyes:
It doesn't have a rack.

jrenaut
10-30-2013, 01:33 PM
Seems straightforward enough: http://goo.gl/maps/jc9VG
Are you implying that, if I were to bring a pie to an event, I would buy the pie? You have insulted me, sir.

guga31bb
10-30-2013, 01:40 PM
I'll be there on Monday!

TwoWheelsDC
10-30-2013, 02:04 PM
I can take the Monday shift.

americancyclo
10-30-2013, 02:12 PM
Are you implying that, if I were to bring a pie to an event, I would buy the pie? You have insulted me, sir.
I'll bring you a rack to trade for your homemade pie! See you at 445?

americancyclo
10-30-2013, 02:14 PM
Boo, 5-7 is too late in the evening!

Tim Kelley
10-30-2013, 02:29 PM
Boo, 5-7 is too late in the evening!

We've found these things work best when it's dark out.

americancyclo
10-30-2013, 02:34 PM
We've found these things work best when it's dark out.

I suppose I already have sufficient lighting.... Thanks for doing this, Tim!

culimerc
10-30-2013, 02:37 PM
I'll talk to the little missus about letting me out after dark to help.

consularrider
10-30-2013, 02:44 PM
Have fun. Unfortunately I can't help out this year since I'll be traveling. :(

dbb
10-30-2013, 02:51 PM
I can help out on Wednesday

Steve O
10-30-2013, 02:52 PM
For those of you handing out lights on Monday, once you are done, just ride up the little hill to Courthouse and join the Arlington Bicycle Advisory Committee meeting at 2100 Clarendon. All welcome, and we'd love to see you and hear how the light giveaway went.

GB
10-30-2013, 02:56 PM
I'll help on Monday if people are still there when I go by (generally that's pretty close to 7pm)

bobco85
10-30-2013, 03:09 PM
I'll be there for Wednesday!

ShawnoftheDread
10-30-2013, 03:57 PM
I'm in for Monday. Might be a few minutes late.

KayakCyndi
10-30-2013, 04:02 PM
I'm in for Monday too. Not at 5pm but will be there by 6 and will stay to the end.

DismalScientist
10-30-2013, 04:11 PM
I'll be there for both because I love pie so much.

P.S. But probably not Wednesday.:(

Arlingtonrider
10-30-2013, 04:25 PM
I can help on Wednesday.

Hancockbs
10-30-2013, 04:55 PM
We've found these things work best when it's dark out.

That occurs in the morning also.

PeteD
10-30-2013, 04:57 PM
I can help out on Monday.

--Pete

Vicegrip
10-30-2013, 04:59 PM
In for Wed.

Tim Kelley
10-30-2013, 05:12 PM
That occurs in the morning also.

Between higher ridership in the afternoon's and the fact that we think more people are willing to help in the evenings when they aren't in a rush to work, we've generally done these in the PM. That being said, if people feel strongly that a morning event would be helpful and would be willing to volunteer, then we'd consider it!

Hancockbs
10-30-2013, 05:42 PM
I would volunteer for the morning, but it would need to be early, say 6-7. Out of curiosity, how is there more riding in the afternoon? Don't people usually go both directions?

mstone
10-30-2013, 05:51 PM
I would volunteer for the morning, but it would need to be early, say 6-7. Out of curiosity, how is there more riding in the afternoon? Don't people usually go both directions?

Turns out that some people ride bikes, but not to work.

Toonces
10-30-2013, 06:04 PM
I can help out on Wed.

PeteD
10-30-2013, 06:24 PM
Turns out that some people ride bikes, but not to work.

Working from home makes every bike ride a commute. :)

--Pete

rcannon100
10-30-2013, 07:25 PM
Working from home makes every bike ride a commute. :)

--Pete

And...... cycling on the Delaware shore is a business expense????

jrenaut
10-30-2013, 08:05 PM
Between higher ridership in the afternoon's and the fact that we think more people are willing to help in the evenings when they aren't in a rush to work, we've generally done these in the PM. That being said, if people feel strongly that a morning event would be helpful and would be willing to volunteer, then we'd consider it!
Hancockbs will bring pie and coffee.

slowtriguy
10-30-2013, 08:38 PM
I can be there on Wednesday evening until about 1830 if that works for you all.

consularrider
10-31-2013, 08:42 AM
Between higher ridership in the afternoon's and the fact that we think more people are willing to help in the evenings when they aren't in a rush to work, we've generally done these in the PM. That being said, if people feel strongly that a morning event would be helpful and would be willing to volunteer, then we'd consider it!
How about at Friday Morning Coffee Club Blinkie event on November 8th? I'd volunteer from 6 - 8 am where ever you hold it, maybe the W&OD/Custis intersection.

culimerc
10-31-2013, 08:58 AM
I'm definitely in for Monday, I'm TBD for Weds

culimerc
10-31-2013, 09:00 AM
Don't people usually go both directions?

Only if you're into that kind of thing.:p

Tim Kelley
10-31-2013, 09:44 AM
Turns out that some people ride bikes, but not to work.

Yeah, that's the reason. During the week days there are generally two spikes in the numbers, one in the morning and one in the afternoon. And the afternoon is generally higher.

cyclingfool
10-31-2013, 09:59 AM
Turns out that some people ride bikes, but not to work.

I remember a time when I used to ride my bike to places that weren't work pretty regularly. Nowadays I feel lucky if I get in a couple miles on the weekend with the 1 y.o. in the Burley, though I do love those couple miles!!!

off2ride
10-31-2013, 10:55 AM
I'll be there Monday + 2 more folks that'll help out.

PeteD
11-03-2013, 05:27 PM
And...... cycling on the Delaware shore is a business expense????

That's the benefit of "working remotely." I can define "remote" to be anywhere I have reliable internet access. I haven't been able to convince the wife that I should work from Pau (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=pau,+france&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.295199,-0.370789&spn=0.434291,0.631027&sll=43.19967,-0.348129&sspn=0.434972,0.631027&hnear=Pau,+Pyr%C3%A9n%C3%A9es-Atlantiques,+Aquitaine,+France&t=m&z=11), or Grenoble (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Grenoble,+France&hl=en&ll=45.18857,5.724564&spn=0.210268,0.315514&sll=45.007535,5.751343&sspn=0.42187,0.631027&oq=greno,+France&hnear=Grenoble,+Isere,+Rhone-Alpes,+France&t=m&z=12), Bormio (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Bormio,+Sondrio,+Italy&hl=en&ll=46.466359,10.370579&spn=0.102748,0.157757&sll=46.533359,10.450745&sspn=0.410484,0.631027&oq=bormio&hnear=Bormio,+Sondrio,+Lombardia,+Italy&t=m&z=13) or Tolmezzo (https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Tolmezzo,+Udine,+Italy&hl=en&ll=46.403303,13.018112&spn=0.411466,0.631027&sll=46.417979,12.961121&sspn=0.205678,0.315514&oq=tolmezzo&hnear=Tolmezzo,+Udine,+Friuli-Venezia+Giulia,+Italy&t=m&z=11)...

jrenaut
11-04-2013, 07:53 AM
All joking aside, I'll be out Wednesday, hopefully by 530.

TwoWheelsDC
11-04-2013, 02:42 PM
Ugh...work is being terrible today and it'd be a miracle if I got out by 5pm. I may have to be satisfied with just stopping and saying hi. But I will try and make it out Wednesday instead.

PeteD
11-04-2013, 07:45 PM
Had a grand old cold time tonight lighting lights, passing out vests and other reflectives.

4001

4002

4003

4004

guga31bb
11-04-2013, 08:52 PM
Cold is right but it was fun -- nice to meet some of you in person! (I was Ben)

jrenaut
11-04-2013, 09:41 PM
Cold is right but it was fun -- nice to meet some of you in person! (I was Ben)
Are you still Ben?

MattAune
11-05-2013, 06:23 AM
I am planning on coming to help out on Wednesday. Should be there by right at 5.

Dirt
11-05-2013, 06:26 AM
I'll be there too. :D

Dickie
11-05-2013, 07:50 AM
Yep, I'm in for Wed... sort of miss seeing your faces after being at the beach for a week anyway! Probably there by 5:00. I could also join Chris for an FCC give away if it happens. What type of Pie is John bringing... need to coordinate with my drink selection?

culimerc
11-05-2013, 08:01 AM
Sorry I missed you all last night, I thought it was at the Custis/WOD intersection like in years past, it wasnt until late that I realized it was moved.

Oops. Sorry

Tim Kelley
11-05-2013, 09:30 AM
Sorry I missed you all last night, I thought it was at the Custis/WOD intersection like in years past, it wasnt until late that I realized it was moved.

Oops. Sorry

We always do the first one in Rosslyn and the second one on Columbia Pike. In the past we've done a third one at the Cutis/WOD so we're currently trying to figure out where we'll do another one.

guga31bb
11-05-2013, 10:55 AM
Are you still Ben?

Nope, it was a one-time deal =D

jrenaut
11-05-2013, 11:01 AM
Nope, it was a one-time deal =D
Ok, then who is Ben now?

Vicegrip
11-05-2013, 12:01 PM
Ok, then who is Ben now?Who's on 1st.

Arlingtonrider
11-05-2013, 12:59 PM
We have a lot of people planning to help out on Weds. Last year a number of us were hungry afterwards and went to Capitol City Brewing Co. It was fun. ;-)

jrenaut
11-05-2013, 06:21 PM
Anyone heading out from DC want to meet at the 14th St Bridge in the neighborhood of 5pm Wednesday?

oldbikechick
11-05-2013, 09:19 PM
I got a very nice Bike Arlington vest yesterday - thanks guys! One question - do they come in small sizes? I got a large one and I think I might be able to use it as a sail on windy days :)

vvill
11-06-2013, 07:35 AM
I got a very nice Bike Arlington vest yesterday - thanks guys! One question - do they come in small sizes? I got a large one and I think I might be able to use it as a sail on windy days :)

I had mine "tailored" and I think someone else on the forum eminva? modified theirs to fit as well.

I ended up using the spare strips of hi viz material on my shoes as part of a Diamond Derby costume.

guga31bb
11-06-2013, 08:12 AM
I got a very nice Bike Arlington vest yesterday - thanks guys! One question - do they come in small sizes? I got a large one and I think I might be able to use it as a sail on windy days :)

Yes, we have Small, Medium, and Large! And yes, the large size is huge -- I'm over 6' tall and had to trade down for a medium...

rcannon100
11-06-2013, 08:28 AM
And remember! You commuting ELITE. You can also purchase these fine items in your local LBS or online (http://www.amazon.com/Neiko-Visibility-Yellow-Zipper-Reflective/dp/B0030AA3YK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1383748027&sr=8-1&keywords=reflective+vest).... and reserve the BA SWAG to the evangelism of SEE AND BE SEEN.

http://www.drivesmartva.org/images/uploads/document-downloads/DSV-VBPA-300x250.jpg

americancyclo
11-06-2013, 08:35 AM
So was there pie? Will there be pie? I'll probably roll through about 440, if y'all are setting up, I'll stop to say hi...

jrenaut
11-06-2013, 08:37 AM
So was there pie? Will there be pie? I'll probably roll through about 440, if y'all are setting up, I'll stop to say hi...
You're obsessed with pie.

guga31bb
11-06-2013, 08:42 AM
On Monday at the giveaway a couple people were curious when I mentioned that there are sometimes police at the intersection of doom -- here's a poorly-shot image from this morning:

http://i.imgur.com/pbw5mCc.png

See the parked police motorcycle and the policeman standing and watching the intersection. You can tell he's there because, for once, there aren't cars blocking the crosswalk while the 'walk' signal is showing.

rpiretti
11-06-2013, 03:54 PM
Plan to be at Columbia Pike tonight if the boss is nice :)

Dirt
11-07-2013, 07:03 AM
I got this young man to do a before/after shot. I adjusted the photos a bit so that the exposure was about the same. That made for a bit of a halo effect around the vest, which I find somewhat appropriate.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3784/10724540874_705ed8f06c_b.jpg

This is completely an illustration. As cyclists, we never actually see someone as well as the person on the left.... not unless we're rocking a 2000 lumen light, which is completely unworkable on the trail. It doesn't take a very powerful light to make someone dressed like the gentleman on the right light up and be seen.

Thank you Bike Arlington for doing this. It makes a HUGE difference for those of us on the trail.... both the people who received the vests and lights and those who share the trail with them.

Pete

Dickie
11-07-2013, 07:33 AM
Giving blinky's away makes you thirsty!

http://i1277.photobucket.com/albums/y481/dicksewell/IMG_1863_zps2ec5bc5b.jpg (http://s1277.photobucket.com/user/dicksewell/media/IMG_1863_zps2ec5bc5b.jpg.html)

best way to be seen... drink at a well lit bar :)

jrenaut
11-07-2013, 02:49 PM
For Americancyclo, who missed it both in person and on Twitter last night

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5494/10719245514_8c7dce4496.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetejon/10719245514/)
Chocolate Pumpkin Pie (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetejon/10719245514/) by thetejon (http://www.flickr.com/people/thetejon/), on Flickr
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7315/10719438943_ee61695125.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetejon/10719438943/)
Tim with pie (http://www.flickr.com/photos/thetejon/10719438943/) by thetejon (http://www.flickr.com/people/thetejon/), on Flickr

Tim Kelley
11-07-2013, 03:37 PM
For Americancyclo, who missed it both in person and on Twitter last night

It was as good as advertised!

Arlingtonrider
11-07-2013, 05:03 PM
It was delicious! So sorry for anyone who missed it. Thanks Jon! And I'm happy that it gave some extra impetus to your plan to add a rack to your bike. You'll enjoy having that!

KayakCyndi
11-07-2013, 06:44 PM
On Monday night I was one of the last to leave the blinky give-away and ended up with a few spares of both the red and white lights. I put one of extra of each on the bike and a few in the backpack. Tonight on the way home I passed one very dark rider. I came up next to him and queried, in the nicest way possible, no lights? He said his headlight just got stolen. So the extra blinkies migrated from my bike to his and one of my BA ankle bands went his way too. He was SOOOO grateful.

I'll have to restock for tomorrow's ride. Thanks BikeArlington!

GB
11-07-2013, 09:02 PM
On Monday night I was one of the last to leave the blinky give-away and ended up with a few spares of both the red and white lights. I put one of extra of each on the bike and a few in the backpack. Tonight on the way home I passed one very dark rider. I came up next to him and queried, in the nicest way possible, no lights? He said his headlight just got stolen. So the extra blinkies migrated from my bike to his and one of my BA ankle bands went his way too. He was SOOOO grateful.

I'll have to restock for tomorrow's ride. Thanks BikeArlington!


Nooooooo. I only meant to Like that post. Is it possible to un-dislike?

KLizotte
11-07-2013, 09:34 PM
Nooooooo. I only meant to Like that post. Is it possible to un-dislike?

Just click "like" - that should do it.

Jason B
11-08-2013, 03:48 AM
Nooooooo. I only meant to Like that post. Is it possible to un-dislike?

Admit it, that was Freudian. You actually hate lights, and want to run on the WOD wearing only black at night!

Hancockbs
11-08-2013, 07:01 AM
Just click "like" - that should do it. No, that leaves you marked as both "Like" and "Dislike". To remove the "Dislike", you should be able to select that option. In other words, once you select "Dislike", the button should change to "Undislike".

culimerc
11-11-2013, 09:14 AM
Can I stop by Bike Arlington HQ to pick up spare blinkies etc to pass out on my travels?

Tim Kelley
11-12-2013, 07:53 AM
Can I stop by Bike Arlington HQ to pick up spare blinkies etc to pass out on my travels?

Most likely. We want to do a few more giveaways, and after that we should have some leftovers that our ambassadors can pick up!

DismalScientist
11-14-2013, 12:29 PM
BikeSnob says suggesting that pedestrians wear reflective clothing and carry lights at night is equivalent to "blaming the victim." http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/11/turn-on-your-flashlight-let-it-shine.html

GB
11-14-2013, 12:39 PM
I think that it's fair to consider it "blaming the victim" if it's after the accident. Does, "I didn't even see you there" sound familiar?

But I also think it's fair to politely notify peds that they are hard to see as you pass them on normal/accident free ride.

I do think we have to have to be very careful about having double standards with the way we expect drivers to treat us and they way we treat peds.

ShawnoftheDread
11-14-2013, 12:39 PM
BikeSnob says suggesting that pedestrians wear reflective clothing and carry lights at night is equivalent to "blaming the victim." http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/11/turn-on-your-flashlight-let-it-shine.html

BikeSnob says a lot of things.

And he's talking about telling pedestrians to do those things on city sidewalks so they don't get hit by cars ON THE SIDEWALK. So I agree with him on that point.

consularrider
11-14-2013, 12:59 PM
BikeSnob says a lot of things.

And he's talking about telling pedestrians to do those things on city sidewalks so they don't get hit by cars ON THE SIDEWALK. So I agree with him on that point.
Yeah, not exactly the same thing as being invisible on an unlit shared use path.

DismalScientist
11-14-2013, 01:08 PM
And he's talking about telling pedestrians to do those things on city sidewalks so they don't get hit by cars ON THE SIDEWALK.

It is not as if pedestrians don't cross the street at anytime. It was the Streetsblog writer that inappropriately linked the ideas of lit pedestrians with not getting run over on the sidewalk. I doubt that whoever suggested that pedestrians be lit was talking about pedestrians solely on sidewalks.

Anyways, I was only trying to cause trouble...

I might point out that the Custis trail in Rosslyn IS a sidewalk.:rolleyes:

mstone
11-14-2013, 01:41 PM
BikeSnob says suggesting that pedestrians wear reflective clothing and carry lights at night is equivalent to "blaming the victim." http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/2013/11/turn-on-your-flashlight-let-it-shine.html

I think there's a substantive difference between an urban sidewalk and an unlit MUP.

mstone
11-14-2013, 01:45 PM
It is not as if pedestrians don't cross the street at anytime. It was the Snob that inappropriately linked the ideas of lit pedestrians with not getting run over on the sidewalk. I doubt that whoever suggested that pedestrians be lit was talking about pedestrians solely on sidewalks.

Context is important. NYC is currently seeing multiple pedestrians per week getting killed by cars running up on sidewalks, and the NYPD is (as usual) not even charging many of the drivers. But they did post this list "to improve the quality of life"--as opposed to, say, taking some action which might encourage motorists to not run over people on sidewalks.

lordofthemark
11-14-2013, 03:43 PM
It is not as if pedestrians don't cross the street at anytime.

Many cross at signal controlled crosswalks, where a driver should either be stopped, or, if making a right on red, should not be proceeding unless they are SURE there is no ped in the crosswalk.

Crossing at an unsignalled crosswalk (far too many such on major arterials in the suburbs, without even Hawklights) its not at all a bad idea to have reflective or at least bright clothing. But the police should still be focusing on changing driver behavior. Even in such places if drivers drove within the speed limit, were attempting to look out for pedestrians, and appropriately yielded when they did see one, that would improve pedestrian safety immensely.

BTW, if you have noticed the new ped icon signs on Hummer near LRT, that followed an email from me to FCDOT recently (they really want to put those signs out around the County, so if you know a place where there are a lot of peds that could use one, email them). I did not have the chutzpah to ask for a Hawklight.

DismalScientist
11-15-2013, 02:43 PM
Google-fu demonstrates that the NYPD just reprinted the pedestrian suggestions from the New York City Department of Aging from April, 2013.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dfta/html/senior/pedestrian.shtml

I don't think the NYPD was trying to be provocative, just lazy.

consularrider
11-15-2013, 02:48 PM
Google-fu demonstrates that the NYPD just reprinted the pedestrian suggestions from the New York City Department of Aging from April, 2013.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dfta/html/senior/pedestrian.shtml

I don't think the NYPD was trying to be provocative, just lazy.
Ok, so it's only us old pharts that need to carry a flashlight? ;) :p

lordofthemark
11-15-2013, 03:48 PM
Ok, so it's only us old pharts that need to carry a flashlight? ;) :p

and at what age do i have to stop walking in the rain and snow? Somehow I dont think NYPD envisions my golden years the way I do ;)

mstone
11-15-2013, 05:17 PM
Google-fu demonstrates that the NYPD just reprinted the pedestrian suggestions from the New York City Department of Aging from April, 2013.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/dfta/html/senior/pedestrian.shtml

I don't think the NYPD was trying to be provocative, just lazy.

I think that's really the problem: they're too lazy to address the issue of motorists killing people.

americancyclo
11-15-2013, 05:41 PM
our ambassadors
Do I pre qualify for that or is there a class/test? Seen lots of candidates the past few days.

consularrider
11-15-2013, 06:30 PM
Yes, the ninjas were out in force this evening grasshopper.

As Dirt's stoker you can be handing them out without stopping, kinda like mardi gras beads.