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baiskeli
08-16-2012, 08:53 AM
I had an idea at the County Fair - why not have a portable CaBi station that you can put up temporarily at high traffic events like the Fair? It would be a station on wheels that you could truck anywhere.

It could either add CaBi to a place where there is no station, or temporarily add to CaBi capacity when there is one. It would be a cool way to promote and demonstrate CaBi too.

TwoWheelsDC
08-16-2012, 09:12 AM
I had an idea at the County Fair - why not have a portable CaBi station that you can put up temporarily at high traffic events like the Fair? It would be a station on wheels that you could truck anywhere.

It could either add CaBi to a place where there is no station, or temporarily add to CaBi capacity when there is one. It would be a cool way to promote and demonstrate CaBi too.

For some large events downtown and on the mall, they set up CaBi corrals. Not quite the same as a portable station, but it accomplishes the same goal. I've also thought they could try seasonal stations, maybe out in places like the MD side of Great Falls, or Mount Vernon that see a spike in summer traffic, but have limited parking that could spur bike usage. After Labor Day, the station could either be moved, or covered and have the bikes removed until the next season.

Tim Kelley
08-16-2012, 09:12 AM
I had an idea at the County Fair - why not have a portable CaBi station that you can put up temporarily at high traffic events like the Fair? It would be a station on wheels that you could truck anywhere.

It could either add CaBi to a place where there is no station, or temporarily add to CaBi capacity when there is one. It would be a cool way to promote and demonstrate CaBi too.

We actually did have a temporary station at the Fair in 2010 that people could demo and try docking and undocking the bikes. The problem is that stations are quite heavy, so even though they are not wired into the ground, it still requires renting a flatbed truck with a small crane attached to move them around.

DC has done a couple temporary corrals in the past at the Cherry Blossom festival and at a few of the Yards Park bike events. They can use a small 3 dock station and simply use it to dock bikes coming in, and then use a master key to undock the bikes. The only issue with this is that it is staff time intensive.

baiskeli
08-16-2012, 10:43 AM
We actually did have a temporary station at the Fair in 2010 that people could demo and try docking and undocking the bikes. The problem is that stations are quite heavy, so even though they are not wired into the ground, it still requires renting a flatbed truck with a small crane attached to move them around.

There you go. Just need to build one that's lighter for that purpose.

I was thinking of one with it's own wheels that wouldn't need to be moved on and off a truck or trailer.

A corral works too though.

5555624
08-16-2012, 11:32 AM
I was thinking of one with it's own wheels that wouldn't need to be moved on and off a truck or trailer.

With a ramp at the back, to roll the bikes on and off.

KLizotte
08-16-2012, 11:49 AM
I'm guessing technology exists that would allow for a handheld device to be invented to check bikes in and out of a temporary corral. I'm thinking of the gizmos rental car agencies use at airports when you return the car. Would be far easier/quicker than hauling around a whole docking station.

Tim Kelley
08-16-2012, 12:04 PM
Yup, all feasible ideas. There just isn't much frequency for demand here for it.

With NYC coming on-board a little later this summer, who knows what kind of fun innovations they'll come up with!

mstone
08-16-2012, 12:13 PM
Yup, all feasible ideas. There just isn't much frequency for demand here for it.

True enough, since NPS tends to ban bikes from all the cool events.

baiskeli
08-16-2012, 02:28 PM
Yup, all feasible ideas. There just isn't much frequency for demand here for it.

Not yet.

Tim Kelley
08-16-2012, 02:30 PM
Go forth and ride, young man!

DCLiz
08-16-2012, 07:16 PM
Is there any way to put a permanent CaBi corral at Nationals Park? There are already two awesome guys at the bike valet who could assist with checking them in or out. Taking CaBi to the game is just too much of a gamble as it is--it's a crapshoot whether you'll be able to find a dock when you get there and unless you bold out of your seat at the last out and dash to the stations madly checking your phone as you watch the bikes disappear, it's even harder to find a bike to go home.

I've often thought a CaBi corral on gamedays would be an ideal solution. The only downside might be that a lot of bikes would be tied up not being used in one spot for the three-hour games.

JacquesOfAllTrades
09-07-2012, 11:04 AM
Is there any way to put a permanent CaBi corral at Nationals Park? There are already two awesome guys at the bike valet who could assist with checking them in or out. Taking CaBi to the game is just too much of a gamble as it is--it's a crapshoot whether you'll be able to find a dock when you get there and unless you bold out of your seat at the last out and dash to the stations madly checking your phone as you watch the bikes disappear, it's even harder to find a bike to go home.

I've often thought a CaBi corral on gamedays would be an ideal solution. The only downside might be that a lot of bikes would be tied up not being used in one spot for the three-hour games.

I definitely agree about a gameday corral. Although if the Nats aren't willing to pay for Metro to run late, I doubt they'd be up for laying out the cash to make this work.

Another solution would be to just have a larger station right there... the demand is certainly there, at least 81 times per year. But I know that entails some extra cost. (Perhaps make it a 39-dock station from April-October, and move those docks somewhere else for the winter months?)

As it is, if I'm CaBi'ing to a game, I try to sit along the first base/RF side, and take the stairway exit behind the barbeque place, which runs right down to the station. Avoids fighting the crowds out the centerfield gate, and provides those precious seconds necessary to snag a bike. And if not, I now walk to one of the other stations in Near SE. Perhaps once the Boilermaker Shops open this winter, they'll finally get around to adding the proposed station by Yards Park, which would mean there'd be 4 stations within a few blocks of the ballpark, 5 if you count 4th and M Southwest.

mstone
09-07-2012, 11:16 AM
The CaBi model just doesn't work well for moving a large number of people to a single spot at a particular time. No matter how many dock slots you add, it will hit capacity fairly quickly. They could dump a ton of money trying to optimize this case, and people would still end up disappointed/pissed off, so the money is fairly certainly better spent elsewhere.