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RESTONTODC
09-23-2011, 01:54 PM
I'm wondering if anyone rides with speakers on their bike. I was think about this one that can attached to handle bar.

http://www.amazon.com/AYL-Portable-Speaker-System-Tablet/dp/B0052NZYXI/ref=pd_cp_e_pw_2

Since I'm a worst singer, so I don't have to sing to Ninja joggers.

Rick

acc
09-23-2011, 03:53 PM
They exist. I almost destroyed one. Over the weekend I rode the Back Roads Century. Around mile 78 I lost my sense of humor. Around mile 81 I encountered a man on a bike playing his calypso music very, very loud. So loud. And I was too tired to pull around him. On we rode, me and Mr. Calypso. Around mile 85, just as I was losing my will to live, the course ran through a few "rolling hills." There is no such thing as rolling hills when you're into more than 80 miles of a ride. Fortunately, somewhere along those hills I lost him and his calypso music. Otherwise I might be in jail charged with capital murder. Bottom line: They not only exist, they are very loud.

ann

RESTONTODC
09-23-2011, 07:58 PM
Ann,

Congratulation on the Back Roads Century. I wasn't able to walk up stairs when I completed my first Back Roads Century years old.

My guess that it doesn't sound good at all.

Rick.

jrenaut
09-23-2011, 09:08 PM
I have never met Dirt in person, but I'll bet you sing just as well as he does.

vvill
09-25-2011, 07:59 PM
They exist. I almost destroyed one. Over the weekend I rode the Back Roads Century. Around mile 78 I lost my sense of humor. Around mile 81 I encountered a man on a bike playing his calypso music very, very loud. So loud. And I was too tired to pull around him. On we rode, me and Mr. Calypso. Around mile 85, just as I was losing my will to live, the course ran through a few "rolling hills." There is no such thing as rolling hills when you're into more than 80 miles of a ride. Fortunately, somewhere along those hills I lost him and his calypso music. Otherwise I might be in jail charged with capital murder. Bottom line: They not only exist, they are very loud.

ann

Hahaha I think I saw this guy quite a few times too. I'm guessing he didn't stop too much at rest stops because he seemed to be just perpetually pedaling out there on the course regardless of if you'd overtaken him already.

MCL1981
09-26-2011, 01:43 PM
I think if you're going to be on a public trail sharing your personal space with many other people, you should be using headphones rather than a speaker.

PotomacCyclist
09-26-2011, 03:35 PM
I've passed by a rider or two with speakers on the bike. I wasn't pleased either. It's incredibly annoying to other trail users, and the cyclist seemed to be just as distracted as cyclists and runners who wear earphones. I think it's a bad idea unless you know that you aren't going to ride near any other cyclists, runners, walkers or cars.

MCL1981
09-27-2011, 09:42 AM
I'd like out that wearing earphones is not a distraction. If one is distracted by music in earphones, then they would be distracted without them too. I wear earphones with music while cycling and kayaking. And for me, it is a serious necessity to keep me going too. I can tell you if I didn't have it one afternoon in April, the harbor patrol would have had to come get me because I wouldn't have made it back to the boathouse. My usual 30 mile bike rides would get very mundane without it quickly and I would probably take the metro back home after 15.

Mark Blacknell
09-27-2011, 10:07 AM
Riding with both headphones in on the streets/trails makes you not just a danger to yourself, but others. If illustrations of my point are needed, check out the MVT any sunny weekend. A speaker? Just makes you a nuisance.

That said, yes, there are a few bike options. In my experience, some work better than others:

1) The ones that drop in like a bottle in the cage are probably the best, sound and battery-wise.
2) A few weeks ago, I rode with a friend who had a CyFi - http://www.amazon.com/Cy-Fi-Wireless-Sports-Speaker-Black/dp/B001L7TICM Sound was surprisingly good. Looks like a battery suck if you use it with Bluetooth, but use a cord and could be a good option.
3) Haven't seen this in person yet, but looks viable - http://www.tunebug.com/

Don't have any experience with the speaker posted up top, but it looks a little awkward/heavy.

Tim Kelley
09-27-2011, 10:18 AM
3) Haven't seen this in person yet, but looks viable - http://www.tunebug.com/

FYI--It appears that the Tunebug spokesman is none other than stunt man Mike Steidley, who you may remember performing at this year's Rosslyn BtWD pitstop (http://commuter.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451f42669e2014e888d9fe9970d-800wi).

Arlingtonrider
09-27-2011, 10:26 AM
For those who like their music and also want to be able to hear traffic sounds, you might want to check out www.onegoodearbud.com, started by a cyclist. It mixes both channels of stereo into a single earbud for either the right or left ear, and costs about $19.95, depending on the style. They're also available with microphones for phone use. I just heard about it from friends who really like theirs, and think it's a great idea. I ordered mine through Amazon.

MCL1981
09-27-2011, 10:29 AM
Riding with both headphones in on the streets/trails makes you not just a danger to yourself, but others.

Your generalization is simply wrong. Pointing out a bunch of people who are in their own little lala land and claiming therefore anyone with earphones in must be in lala land is completely wrong. If they're inattentive with music, they'd be inattentive without music. They'e just inattentive people. The music is irrelevant.

In fact I would go as far as saying that me riding around with earphones in, I'm still a safer rider than a lot of people without them. I see a lot more "professional riders" all geared up (without earphones) playing king of the road and trail than I see la la land riders. The arrogant rider is much more significant problem than the distracted rider as far as I'm concerned.

Dirt
09-27-2011, 10:47 AM
Singing badly.. or in my case horribly... is part of the fun of riding on local Multi-Use Trails. :D

Mark Blacknell
09-27-2011, 11:20 AM
Your generalization is simply wrong. Pointing out a bunch of people who are in their own little lala land and claiming therefore anyone with earphones in must be in lala land is completely wrong. If they're inattentive with music, they'd be inattentive without music. They'e just inattentive people. The music is irrelevant.

When you block yourself from hearing the sounds of the world around you - including other traffic, warning signals, etc. you can't make up for that with a simple assertion that you're just as safe as you would be if you could hear these things. Can you hear traffic approaching from behind without earphones - you usually can. With earphones? Usually not.

You can go ahead and tell yourself you're just as safe as if you didn't have them in, but you can expect to be called on that, if you try to tell everyone else that. This strikes me like a lot of the self-justification I did about using a cell phone all the time in cars. Except when I got honest about it, and looked at the facts, it's not safe at all. Turns out all my common sense arguments just didn't hold up if I could bring myself to step back and look at them.




In fact I would go as far as saying that me riding around with earphones in, I'm still a safer rider than a lot of people without them.

Maybe you are, maybe you're not. I don't really have a way to tell. There's a lot of components to safe riding. But if you're putting yourself in situations where you'd have to be rescued by others if you didn't have music, I've not got a lot of faith in the risk assessment abilities present.



The arrogant rider is much more significant problem than the distracted rider as far as I'm concerned.

I'd say its arrogant to offload your share of listening to the environment around you onto others.

RESTONTODC
09-27-2011, 01:04 PM
Beside, riding with earphones is illegal in Virginia. If I decide to buy it, I need to consider the environment and turn it down when riding on the trail. Thank you for all the feedback.

Here is the link to the VA law.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-1078

Rick

jabberwocky
09-27-2011, 01:19 PM
The amount of trouble I used to have with headphone-wearing riders on the W&OD is pretty definitive as to what a detriment they are, as far as I'm concerned. They make up a small percentage of riders but where an overwhelming majority of problems. I don't ride the W&OD much anymore, but even now I'm always tempted to reach over and rip the damn things out of peoples ears as I go by.

To be honest, I'm even more scared of someone who wears them and argues that it isn't a problem than someone who wears them and is oblivious. :eek:

Arlingtonrider
09-27-2011, 02:10 PM
I'm with you on that one. I hate to stereotype (:D), but I've also noticed that people with two earphones seem never to call their passes. If they think they're so alert and attentive, I'd like to hear and see them show it. Any earphones, even just one, is a distraction to some extent, although I think one earphone would be better than two. There are just too many things to pay attention to when you're on a bike in most places.

MCL1981
09-27-2011, 04:00 PM
I said they would have to come get me (like, a tow or a lift), not come rescue me. The music helped me pull myself through a tough situation when the weather conditions changed rapidly. The alternative would have been not pushing through it and needing a tow or a lift. Music motivates me to keep moving on my bike as well.

I call my passes when necessary. I look behind me before I "shift lanes". Already more than most people do with or without headphones. I'm prepared to stop at stop signs, red lights, intersections, etc, which is also more than a lot of "professional riders" with or without earphones. If I'm on the road, I act as if I'm on a bicycle not a tank and don't pretend to own the road. More than a lot of "professional riders" without earphones. I run my front and rear flashing lights during the day to better grab the attention of other runners and cyclists who are in lala land, which I never see anyone else do. The speed limit on the CCT is 15 for a reason and I respect that. Yep. I'm really dangerous.

I still hear most cars, bells, and horns behind me. I still hear the sounds of chains and sprockets behind me. Not sure what else you think I need to hear behind me. Sure I don't hear very quiet or distance sounds. Nor do I care. If a Prius is going to sneak up behind me and run my ass over, it is going to be successful with or without music. At least I'll go down hearing something besides by own femur cracking.

Riley Casey
09-28-2011, 09:49 AM
I can't believe that this thread has now grown to two pages. Sheese.

Mark Blacknell
09-28-2011, 09:53 AM
Personally, I'm just waiting for someone to tell us about the importance of using Monster patch cables for improved sound.

americancyclo
09-28-2011, 10:42 AM
Personally, I'm just waiting for someone to tell us about the importance of using Monster patch cables for improved sound.

Monster cables are the BEST because they're made from GOLD. I replaced all my stock derailleur and shifting cables with Monster cables as soon as I got it back from the bike shop. Shifts and brakes so much quieter now. Totally worth the investment.

MCL1981
09-28-2011, 11:05 AM
I splice them into my earphones too. They may be 1/2" thick and very heavy. But the quality is amazing.

CCrew
09-28-2011, 11:48 AM
Beside, riding with earphones is illegal in Virginia. If I decide to buy it, I need to consider the environment and turn it down when riding on the trail. Thank you for all the feedback.

Here is the link to the VA law.

http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+46.2-1078

Rick

Actually, riding with just one plugged in is legal.

DaveK
09-28-2011, 12:30 PM
Personally, I'm just waiting for someone to tell us about the importance of using Monster patch cables for improved sound.

I thought felt a great disturbance in the Force... this statement explains it. The phrase Monster Cable sends me into involuntary seizures.

JimF22003
09-28-2011, 01:20 PM
When I put the electronic Di2 shifting system on my new bike I specified optical "TOSLINK" cables. My shifting is now even more digitallyicious.

MCL1981
09-28-2011, 01:23 PM
Actually, the VA law specifically states BOTH EARS. And that law only applies while riding on PUBLIC ROADS.

americancyclo
10-17-2011, 08:42 AM
To get this thread back on topic...


2) A few weeks ago, I rode with a friend who had a CyFi - http://www.amazon.com/Cy-Fi-Wireless-Sports-Speaker-Black/dp/B001L7TICM Sound was surprisingly good. Looks like a battery suck if you use it with Bluetooth, but use a cord and could be a good option.

A friend of mine picked up the CyFi for the Seagull Century this past weekend. He could hear the sound fine, but when I was behind or in front of him, I could barely hear anything. It seemed to localize the audio pretty well, aiming the speakers up towards the rider, but not really out to the sides too much. Maybe one rider width away on each side. It was nice at some points, but he didn't run it for the whole ride, and was doing bluetooth from his ipod in a bento box.

Let us know what you decide!

Riley Casey
10-18-2011, 12:52 PM
OK, now I'm surprised that this thread is now three pages long. On the other hand Toslink cables to the brakes sound appealing. Digital data about brake wear, motional feedback from the derailleurs to a heads up display in the helmet? It staggers the mind.

DaveK
10-18-2011, 01:38 PM
OK, now I'm surprised that this thread is now three pages long. On the other hand Toslink cables to the brakes sound appealing. Digital data about brake wear, motional feedback from the derailleurs to a heads up display in the helmet? It staggers the mind.

http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/17/wireless-bike-brake-system-has-the-highest-gpa-ever/

We're through the looking glass here, people.

MCL1981
10-21-2011, 03:09 PM
NOT READY READING BRAKE A. Abort / Retry / Fail

Though in all seriousness, combined with wheel slip and spin sensors, it could provide real anti-lock brakes too.

zanna_leigh
11-29-2011, 08:00 AM
I knew there was a thread about stereo systems on bikes....this "feats per minute" bike may be the solution! This way, not only can you be in tune to your surroundings, but your surroundings can be in tune to your tunes :o

http://www.dj-rooms.com/feats-per-minute-turntable-bicycle/

mrkenny83
11-29-2011, 04:55 PM
Mark Ronson has a nice bicycle speaker in his music video for "The Bike Song"
...which is an appropriate video/song for this forum :-)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVELTxKRoHA

RESTONTODC
11-29-2011, 08:34 PM
The music video is awesome. I love it. What kind of battery does he use to power the big speaker?