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Tim Kelley
04-02-2010, 10:02 AM
For more information on the Arlington Bicycle Advisory Committee, please visit the BikeArlington Get Involved (http://www.bikearlington.com/pages/get-involved/) page.

chris_s
12-20-2016, 09:34 AM
Meeting minutes are available on the BAC web page (https://commissions.arlingtonva.us/bicycle-advisory-committee/).

DrP
12-20-2016, 10:50 AM
Meeting minutes are available on the BAC web page (https://commissions.arlingtonva.us/bicycle-advisory-committee/).

Thank you. I just looked there and I see where they would likely list and link the minutes, including what looks like expansion arrows, but nothing is there that one can click. I checked on Firefox and Chrome (recent but not absolute latest versions) and found the same thing. So, is it "in process" or is something currently broken?

chris_s
12-20-2016, 11:07 AM
Thank you. I just looked there and I see where they would likely list and link the minutes, including what looks like expansion arrows, but nothing is there that one can click. I checked on Firefox and Chrome (recent but not absolute latest versions) and found the same thing. So, is it "in process" or is something currently broken?

Clicking the expansion arrow makes that year's worth of minutes appear for me.

sjclaeys
12-20-2016, 11:08 AM
Meeting minutes are available on the BAC web page (https://commissions.arlingtonva.us/bicycle-advisory-committee/).

True, but who knows when new meeting minutes get posted? Since Arlington BAC seems to be the only bicycle advisory committee in the area that cannot spare the time to post on the forum when new minutes are available, the public needs to repeatedly visit the BAC web page to see if any new minutes are posted.

chris_s
12-20-2016, 11:30 AM
True, but who knows when new meeting minutes get posted?

Everyone who has joined the BAC Google Group, which is not limited to BAC members.

So someone who cares passionately about Arlington BAC meeting minutes being posted to the forum could subscribe to the BAC Google Group and then when a set of meeting minutes get finalized, they could post them to the forum. They wouldn't even have to sit through any boring meetings.

DrP
12-20-2016, 12:54 PM
Clicking the expansion arrow makes that year's worth of minutes appear for me.

Hmm, that works for me now, but wasn't at the time I wrote the message. Really. I did try. I still do not get a change to the cursor when hovering over the arrows. Anyway, I can expand them now.

chris_s
12-20-2016, 12:55 PM
Hmm, that works for me now, but wasn't at the time I wrote the message. Really. I did try. I still do not get a change to the cursor when hovering over the arrows. Anyway, I can expand them now.

I agree that it's not terribly intuitive.

sjclaeys
12-20-2016, 02:44 PM
Everyone who has joined the BAC Google Group, which is not limited to BAC members.

So someone who cares passionately about Arlington BAC meeting minutes being posted to the forum could subscribe to the BAC Google Group and then when a set of meeting minutes get finalized, they could post them to the forum. They wouldn't even have to sit through any boring meetings.

Also true, but I continue to be amazed about how intransigent Arlington BAC is about easily getting better community participation. In my opinion, I do not think that this reflects well on Arlington BAC. Anyhow, realizing that minds will not be changed, I've stopped raising this issue on my own initiative and am just giving positive feedback to those similar committees that do let the forum know when their minutes are available. If that bothers Arlington BAC, well that is Arlington BAC's problem, not mine.

lordofthemark
12-20-2016, 03:10 PM
Also true, but I continue to be amazed about how intransigent Arlington BAC is about easily getting better community participation. In my opinion, I do not think that this reflects well on Arlington BAC. Anyhow, realizing that minds will not be changed, I've stopped raising this issue on my own initiative and am just giving positive feedback to those similar committees that do let the forum know when their minutes are available. If that bothers Arlington BAC, well that is Arlington BAC's problem, not mine.


Clearly the difference is that BAC is a cyclists' group, while BPAC does Bicycling and Pedestrian advocacy, and this is, er, cough, a pedestrian issue.

rcannon100
12-20-2016, 03:44 PM
Meeting content (minutes, agendas, notices) posted to email discussion groups are not publicly accessible on the web and are generally not findable through searches. Say, for instance, if a WAPO reporter wanted to understand an ABAC position on the IOD. If meeting materials were on the web, they could provide background material of the aBAC.

While the subscriptions to an email group may be permissive, posting content only to an email group continues to be restrictive.

chris_s
12-20-2016, 04:02 PM
Meeting content (minutes, agendas, notices) posted to email discussion groups are not publicly accessible on the web and are generally not findable through searches. Say, for instance, if a WAPO reporter wanted to understand an ABAC position on the IOD. If meeting materials were on the web, they could provide background material of the aBAC.

While the subscriptions to an email group may be permissive, posting content only to an email group continues to be restrictive.
The minutes ARE on the BAC website. That's what re-started this conversation. I suggested subscribing to the group if one wants to be NOTIFIED when new minutes are finalized rather than having to proactively check the website.

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rcannon100
12-20-2016, 10:58 PM
So.... wait.... first you wont tell me about the minutes of the ABAC in whatever format the beer-guy wants.... and now you expect me to keep track of a thread for longer than three posts????? That REALLY is asking for too much.

Can we get the minutes delivered by bike courrrier at least?